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Opace
02-06-2010, 03:18 AM
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Yes, the most important part of this event is finally here. Before you vote, just read this next bit: All winners of each category and their respective runner ups (with 2 exceptions) are included in this poll. So even if your favourite anime was a runner up in the categories, it could still very well win this whole thing. Voting will end in 12 days.

And without further ado.. the nominees!



The Anime of the Decade!


Black Lagoon (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6159)
Bleach (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4240)
Clannad (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7809)
Code Geass (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6704)
Death Note (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592)
Full Metal Alchemist (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2960)
FLCL (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=277)
Great Teacher Onizuka (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=153)
Hajime no Ippo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1139)
Howl's Moving Castle (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=889)
Monster (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3750)
One Piece (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=836)
Prince of Tennis (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=876)
Spirited Away (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=377)
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6698)

Ian the Korean
02-06-2010, 03:57 AM
If you vote for Bleach, I will ban you straight up

not joking

Kaixx
02-06-2010, 04:26 AM
Many great anime up there, but it has to be One Piece. The first subbed anime I ever watched and it's been my favourite ever since.

danialYong
02-06-2010, 04:40 AM
How come people have not added "InuYasha (http://animemangahome.com/anime-series/inuyasha)".:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
It is the best Anime of all time; as far as I am concerned.

Kenshin Gordon
02-06-2010, 06:45 AM
Opace, you know only one would be my pick from those. I have a different taste. It's far too subjective.

Animeace
02-06-2010, 09:08 AM
If you vote for Bleach, I will ban you straight up

not joking

I would vote for Bleach if FLCL wasnt there. One Piece Cmon man.
FLCL all the way. Dont make Haruko smack you in the head with a guitar ppl. It hurts trust me.XD

KEY-Fan
02-06-2010, 11:48 AM
Voted for Clannad. If DN would have ended with L living, my vote would have gone for that, though. ;)

But I wonder why OP is in front so much. It's a realy nice show and I know many people that like it at well, but none of them say it's their favorite show:roll:
Well, that might be bc I'm from germany, who knows :D

Stargaze
02-06-2010, 11:52 AM
I'm voting for TTGL all the way. Its slowly becoming known.

Kaixx
02-06-2010, 11:59 AM
It's more known than most anime out there. #1 on the rating ranking and #13 on the popularity ranking on MAL. I wouldn't call that "slowly becoming known."

It also has Clannad ~After Story~ as #1 for ranking which makes me rage.

Naota Nandaba
02-06-2010, 12:17 PM
Flcl !

Foxyknoxicle
02-06-2010, 12:51 PM
Monster isn't getting the votes it deserves :(

Ryu Yuki
02-06-2010, 02:46 PM
I'm going to have to say Full Metal Alchemist. That anime is definately one of my all time favorites. Altho i almost voted for Bleach.

catastrophe
02-06-2010, 03:09 PM
Reeally? No Gintama? :[

Monster was awesome so i'll go with that.

IanTheAmerican
02-06-2010, 03:16 PM
One Piece.

It has pretty much everything an amazing adventure story should have, and on top of that, better character development then the rest of the competitors. The only other two on this list that come close to One Piece's splendor are Gurren Lagann and GTO.

Also, for those that voted DN or Monster, has your series been the most viewed/watched anime for the last decade? LOL No.

Yanyu~
02-06-2010, 03:31 PM
I can't believe there's no Gintama :< But Prince of Tennis amuses me so with that I'll go~<3

catastrophe
02-06-2010, 03:44 PM
Also, for those that voted DN or Monster, has your series been the most viewed/watched anime for the last decade? LOL No.

Am I the only who doesn't understand what this means..? Or Are you trying to say that only popular titles deserve anime of the decade?

IanTheAmerican
02-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Am I the only who doesn't understand what this means..? Or Are you trying to say that only popular titles deserve anime of the decade?

What i'm saying is that One Piece will still be epic and ground breaking long after the memories of all of these animes have faded.

catastrophe
02-06-2010, 04:36 PM
What i'm saying is that One Piece will still be epic and ground breaking long after the memories of all of these animes have faded.

Lol? Ever heard of cult classics?

IanTheAmerican
02-06-2010, 04:41 PM
Lol? Ever heard of cult classics?

There's a difference between a cult and a phenomenon.

KT Samurai
02-06-2010, 05:51 PM
Also, for those that voted DN or Monster, has your series been the most viewed/watched anime for the last decade? LOL No.

Are you suggesting that popularity = quality? You're a smarter guy than that, Alex. Just load up Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/hot-100)to see why you're a silly guy for writing this.

As for my vote, I'm going for "Spirited Away." Nothing on this list has blown my mind like that film has, though the little bit of "One Piece" I've seen has me thinking that if I was caught up I'd be voting for that.

lostty
02-06-2010, 06:03 PM
Totally voted for Spirited Away
It has proved itself to be the best for many reasons and managed to get anime more known in North America this decade.

Zer0
02-06-2010, 06:06 PM
Are you suggesting that popularity = quality? You're a smarter guy than that, Alex. Just load up Billboard (http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/hot-100)to see why you're a silly guy for writing this.

As for my vote, I'm going for "Spirited Away." Nothing on this list has blown my mind like that film has, though the little bit of "One Piece" I've seen has me thinking that if I was caught up I'd be voting for that.

What was that one bit of "One piece" specifically speaking?

KT Samurai
02-06-2010, 06:09 PM
What was that one bit of "One piece" specifically speaking?

I'd made it as far as what I can only describe as the merman arc, a section of the series that dealt with Nami's past and why she is who she is. A certain scene really got to me, I'm sure if you've seen it you know which one. I actually got choked up.

catastrophe
02-06-2010, 06:10 PM
There's a difference between a cult and a phenomenon.

Either way, there's no way good stuff like Monster will be forgotten in a decade.

Zer0
02-06-2010, 06:26 PM
I'd made it as far as what I can only describe as the merman arc, a section of the series that dealt with Nami's past and why she is who she is. A certain scene really got to me, I'm sure if you've seen it you know which one. I actually got choked up.

Good news. People who really liked that arc, they are definitely going to like the rest of the show. It just shows what One Piece is all about, then it just keeps getting better from there is you go into the grand line. One Piece is not good at all in the beginning but it gets better all the time from merman island and on.

Read it if you have a hard time catching up with it, it's faster that way.

Zer0
02-06-2010, 06:27 PM
Either way, there's no way good stuff like Monster will be forgotten in a decade.

Definitely not. But there are some on that list that are totally crushed by OP and monster and spirited away.

Opace
02-06-2010, 06:45 PM
I just need to know: How does the One Piece anime fare agaisnt its original source (i.e. the manga)? I'm constantly keeping up with the latest chapters in the manga, yet never bothered watching the anime past the first 50 or so episodes. Is it as epic and awesome in the anime as the manga, or does it do a "naruto" on the viewers.

Zer0
02-06-2010, 06:49 PM
I just need to know: How does the One Piece anime fare agaisnt its original source (i.e. the manga)? I'm constantly keeping up with the latest chapters in the manga, yet never bothered watching the anime past the first 50 or so episodes. Is it as epic and awesome in the anime as the manga, or does it do a "naruto" on the viewers.

While I'm not up to date with manga, but with anime. I have read manga chapter that came out in the anime already. And I can already pick out some differences in art and style. THe manga demolishes the anime in terms of style and art, because oda is awesome. The pacing sometimes can be a lot better than that in the anime. But I stick with anime because of sound and color and the fights are more enjoyable. If you read the manga you know what happens next, that's why i stick with anime because of the aniticipation of what will happen next, unlike if you read the manga you're way a ahead of the anime.

Pokota
02-06-2010, 07:22 PM
I'd made it as far as what I can only describe as the merman arc, a section of the series that dealt with Nami's past and why she is who she is. A certain scene really got to me, I'm sure if you've seen it you know which one. I actually got choked up.

Nami's arc was incredible. It blew me away and hooked me forever. That an action/adventure/comedy anime could be so emotionally powerful left me speechless. When Luffy discovered that room ... damn. That was a perfect example of the awesomeness of One Piece in a nutshell. I got goosebumps.

I'm picking One Piece over Monster and Spirited Away, though it was a difficult choice. Spirited Away isn't my favorite Ghibli film, so it's kind of hard to go with that, even though that's kind of unfair. Monster is absolutely groundbreaking for the way it brought mature, intellectual content to anime, as well as one of the best villains of all time, but it's just not as iconic as One Piece. It's a very close second, though.

Ian the Korean
02-06-2010, 07:43 PM
I just need to know: How does the One Piece anime fare agaisnt its original source (i.e. the manga)? I'm constantly keeping up with the latest chapters in the manga, yet never bothered watching the anime past the first 50 or so episodes. Is it as epic and awesome in the anime as the manga, or does it do a "naruto" on the viewers.

Nah One Piece has pretty much failed to have a bad arc since Arlong Park (the aforementioned fishman one dealing with Nami's past). The only two "low points" although even that's disputable among the fandom, would be Skypiea and Thriller Bark; both in my opinion stretched a little longer than was entertaining, especially in the anime, but they certainly weren't bad. Skypiea was also kind of unique from almost all the other arcs in the series in that it wasn't really your typical "rescue crewmate/recruit new crewmate" arc that occurs in a lot of the others. It was pretty much purely a pirate adventure in a strange land. I think it also suffered from some of the least interesting villains although the main badguy gave us one of the most amusing memes since with his "Enelface (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc221/photobucketer258/Eneru.jpg)."

Anywho, the anime follows the manga pretty tightly, although there's obviously some filler. A lot of it is written or contributed to by Oda himself though, adding in stuff he couldn't squeeze into the weekly manga that he still wanted to address. Without giving away too many spoilers, some of the most recent fillers were almost vignettes about each crew member as they were separated along their journey. I'm pretty sure Oda was directly writing these and it flows pretty seemlessly with what happened in the manga. You don't really feel like the filler arcs are something you should just skip over or wait a few weeks (months in Bleach's and Naruto's cases) to wrap up and get back to the real storyline.

Volk
02-06-2010, 09:33 PM
I'll have to go with Black Lagoon. It was an awesome action anime, that had great art, captivating story and outstanding character.

IanTheAmerican
02-07-2010, 01:15 AM
I love these threads.
New OP fans are born, and i get to troll Katie.

Tenken
02-07-2010, 07:00 AM
I guess since everyone's saying OP is the greatest of the decade, I'm at least going to have to get reading the manga. All 570~ chapters. I'll probably drop Naruto and replace it with this.

I'm just going to have to follow the crowd.

KEY-Fan
02-07-2010, 07:32 AM
I guess since everyone's saying OP is the greatest of the decade, I'm at least going to have to get reading the manga. All 570~ chapters. I'll probably drop Naruto and replace it with this.

I'm just going to have to follow the crowd.

If ur only reading the manga why don't you stay with Narutard and pick up OP? :)
If you're up to date with Naruto it's not really a big difference. If you always read the new chapters when they come out at least. I'm reading scans of like 5 or 6 series weekly within less than an hour :lol:
Though, in my next holidays, I'm gonna try to catch up to OP too, bc I lost it around Enel's-Arc.

Ian the Korean
02-07-2010, 02:33 PM
I honestly might recommend watching it: http://www.onepieceofficial.com/episodes.aspx

They've got through episode 13 available, not too hard to find it streaming elsewhere, but I'd say watch it until you get up to Arlong Park. I've yet to find any worthwhile scanlations online anywhere for like the first couple of arcs, like the translations are -REALLY- bad. Like, difficult to follow the plot bad. Totally up to you either way, but once you get to the Arlong Park arc, the scans on the whole become a lot more consistent from all the groups I've read.

nekosenshi
02-07-2010, 03:34 PM
Of the options available I voted for FMA. It's in my top five anime ever list.

J.CoolKid1412
02-07-2010, 05:38 PM
Though I voted DN in the psychological thriller last time, I'm voting Monster now... For me, it's the complete anime series... I love OP too, but for me, Monster deserves the anime of the decade award...

Ren
02-07-2010, 10:10 PM
I vote FLCL. Though, I was thinking of picking Clannad. I won't ever forget FLCL though, and it's not likely anyone who has watched it will forget anytime soon either. It's just that crazy. :D

Mr. Pokemon
02-08-2010, 02:11 AM
I voted for FLCL, I love the ending music and the randomness and AMVs.

Ian the Korean
02-08-2010, 02:43 AM
While I understand commercial success does not indicate quality, I would say quality can in fact lead to commercial success: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-16/all-56-one-piece-books-on-japan-weekly-top-200-manga

When you've got an anime movie outselling a Harry Potter movie you know it's good.

catastrophe
02-08-2010, 05:39 AM
While I understand commercial success does not indicate quality, I would say quality can in fact lead to commercial success: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-12-16/all-56-one-piece-books-on-japan-weekly-top-200-manga

When you've got an anime movie outselling a Harry Potter movie you know it's good.

Not really when you're misleading people as that only happened in Japan.

Ian the Korean
02-08-2010, 11:17 AM
Not really when you're misleading people as that only happened in Japan.

Thought it was pretty obvious I meant specifically in Japan, given Strong World hasn't been released outside of Japan to my knowledge? Sorry you're dumb?

catastrophe
02-08-2010, 02:12 PM
Thought it was pretty obvious I meant specifically in Japan, given Strong World hasn't been released outside of Japan to my knowledge? Sorry you're dumb?

Then your original point itself is stupid if you're only talking about Japan. Harry potter is western, obviously it won't do as well in Japan as it does over here.

Did Ponyo do record sails in NA like it did in Japan? Obviously not.

FullyArmedHippo
02-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Ummm i would have to go with GTO, i thought it was such a great anime.

Pokota
02-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Then your original point itself is stupid if you're only talking about Japan. Harry potter is western, obviously it won't do as well in Japan as it does over here.

Did Ponyo do record sails in NA like it did in Japan? Obviously not.

The last Harry Potter film did extremely well in Japan. If it didn't set the opening weekend record, then it was darn close. Pointing out that Strong World did as well as a huge film franchise like Harry Potter is a very valid observation. It's means pretty much the same as saying X film did better than Harry Potter in the west.

catastrophe
02-08-2010, 07:06 PM
The last Harry Potter film did extremely well in Japan. If it didn't set the opening weekend record, then it was darn close. Pointing out that Strong World did as well as a huge film franchise like Harry Potter is a very valid observation. It's means pretty much the same as saying X film did better than Harry Potter in the west.

I know that Harry Potter did well in Japan, and while One Piece did even better, making a comparison with Harry Potter as if it is a phenomenon in Japan is what didn`t make sense about his post.

It`s not a gigantic achievement that OP did better than HP, plenty of anime films have beaten HP at the box office.

IanTheAmerican
02-08-2010, 07:20 PM
Harry Potter is a phenomenon in Japan.

Handcuffs
02-08-2010, 07:38 PM
Ban me, but I'm voting for Bleach. :)
Sorry ya'll.

catastrophe
02-08-2010, 08:13 PM
Harry Potter is a phenomenon in Japan.

No it isn't, it has no pop culture at all there. Doing good in the box office does not equal phenomenon.

As a more agreeable example, One Piece can actually be considered one as it has become one of the most popular series in Japan, ever. and it plays an active role in their entertainment.

Ian the Korean
02-08-2010, 09:17 PM
No it isn't, it has no pop culture at all there. Doing good in the box office does not equal phenomenon.

As a more agreeable example, One Piece can actually be considered one as it has become one of the most popular series in Japan, ever. and it plays an active role in their entertainment.

No you're dumb and wrong sorry

Pokota
02-08-2010, 09:34 PM
Ban me, but I'm voting for Bleach. :)
Sorry ya'll.

Begone, Canadian! I withdraw my welcome!

IanTheAmerican
02-08-2010, 10:45 PM
No it isn't, it has no pop culture at all there. Doing good in the box office does not equal phenomenon.

As a more agreeable example, One Piece can actually be considered one as it has become one of the most popular series in Japan, ever. and it plays an active role in their entertainment.
Absolutely...
http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/japan-harry-potter.jpg
... positively...
http://www.japanforum.com/gallery/data/544/medium/Japanese-Harry-Potter-07-2007-004.jpg
... not...
http://blog.costumecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/harry-potter-costumes-fans.jpg

... a...
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:GiCfoKLJgaKn6M:http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2009/7/touch-okay-japanes-fan-girl-kana-1.jpg

... phenomenon.

Would you like anything to drink with what i just served you?

Foxyknoxicle
02-09-2010, 02:07 AM
From reading all of these threads I've come to the conclusion I have to watch One Piece. Now all I need to do is find about 60 hours of free time to catch up.

On another note, those Harry Potter kids in the third pic are hilariously cute... the ones in the first picture scare me.

catastrophe
02-09-2010, 04:59 AM
Absolutely...
http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/japan-harry-potter.jpg
... positively...
http://www.japanforum.com/gallery/data/544/medium/Japanese-Harry-Potter-07-2007-004.jpg
... not...
http://blog.costumecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/harry-potter-costumes-fans.jpg

... a...
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:GiCfoKLJgaKn6M:http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2009/7/touch-okay-japanes-fan-girl-kana-1.jpg

... phenomenon.

Would you like anything to drink with what i just served you?

...Really? How can you possibly think that HP is a phenomenon in Japan with those examples? why are you showing cosplay? Even the most obscure stuff have cosplay in Japan. And a billboard for the movie? Are you expecting movies to not have ads? Call me when it's a part of their daily entertainment, that's a phenomenon. Or maybe you just don't understand the magnitude of that word.

All i'm drinking here it seems is some rage fueled by arguing for the sake of arguing. Got something against me?

KEY-Fan
02-09-2010, 10:28 AM
I don't realy like HP (I'm not a huge OP fan though, but I love Zorro^^) but still, I don't think OP counts as "part of daily life" or entertainment for all japanese ;)
Besides you can't really compare a Movie (even if it has like 6 parts) with a series with nearly 500 EP's. Would be somehow like comparing the super bowl with soccergames. :)

One more thing: Why don't you open a HP-Thread? :) Because whatever HP means to japanese culture / daily life, its most likely NOT the Anime of the Decade ;)

Wence
02-09-2010, 10:57 AM
Enjoyed Death Note the most out of the list and would have voted for Haruhi as 'Anime of the Decade.' Went with One Piece as next choice.

An opinion of one that wouldn't normally watch "The Three" ongoing shounens
One Piece was great for me up till the Grand Line and then my interest slowly started to fade away each arc. Same with Bleach and Naruto but my enjoyment for those two wore out in less than 2 seasons. There were still worthwhile comedy moments from One Piece and the backstories were always top notch but each arc had the same elements as Naruto and Bleach.

It's still surprising to see a fan have so much love for one of the three and yet HATE the other two with such passion even when they eventually become similar. One Piece I do see as the superior out of the three with the slight differences but if you're able to enjoy the rinse/repeat arcs that they all have then I don't see why someone could actually despise one or the other. Dislike, yes, but labeling one as trash and another a masterpiece is odd.

catastrophe
02-09-2010, 02:05 PM
Meh, screw the argument about HP this and HP that. It's not really going anywhere and is completely off-topic from this thread.

froggy
02-09-2010, 04:16 PM
...Really? How can you possibly think that HP is a phenomenon in Japan with those examples? why are you showing cosplay? Even the most obscure stuff have cosplay in Japan. And a billboard for the movie? Are you expecting movies to not have ads? Call me when it's a part of their daily entertainment, that's a phenomenon. Or maybe you just don't understand the magnitude of that word.

All i'm drinking here it seems is some rage fueled by arguing for the sake of arguing. Got something against me?


It's not just you he seems to have something against anyone with intelligence that doesn't believe everything he says as gospel truth. I'm just ignoring him from now on.

Oh and on Topic I voted for FLCL because it did so much with so little 6 episodes of absolute magic, plus the music that "The Pillows" did for it rocked. I have it playing in the background as we speak.

Zer0
02-09-2010, 07:50 PM
One Piece is just getting even more popular now. Thats good now.

KingNothing
02-10-2010, 10:41 AM
Nah One Piece has pretty much failed to have a bad arc since Arlong Park (the aforementioned fishman one dealing with Nami's past). The only two "low points" although even that's disputable among the fandom, would be Skypiea and Thriller Bark; both in my opinion stretched a little longer than was entertaining, especially in the anime, but they certainly weren't bad. Skypiea was also kind of unique from almost all the other arcs in the series in that it wasn't really your typical "rescue crewmate/recruit new crewmate" arc that occurs in a lot of the others. It was pretty much purely a pirate adventure in a strange land. I think it also suffered from some of the least interesting villains although the main badguy gave us one of the most amusing memes since with his "Enelface (http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc221/photobucketer258/Eneru.jpg)."


I don't know about this. I absolutely love One Piece and thought the Skypiea was good which you said is disputable. However I thought the Davey Back Arc was terrible. I thought filler arc G8 was way better than that arc. However I have only seen up to the Davey Back arc. I am on episode 219 or so.

Ian the Korean
02-10-2010, 02:23 PM
I don't know about this. I absolutely love One Piece and thought the Skypiea was good which you said is disputable. However I thought the Davey Back Arc was terrible. I thought filler arc G8 was way better than that arc. However I have only seen up to the Davey Back arc. I am on episode 219 or so.

I personally liked Skypiea, and I didn't see the Davey Back filler since I mostly read OP; but I did hear they added like two extra "games" in it and stretched it a lot more. It ruled pretty hard in the manga, what with afro-luffy and all. It felt like an appropriate bit of comedy during a part of the series that had been getting kinda serious, in the manga at least since you didn't have G8 preceeding it there.

Kaixx
02-10-2010, 02:35 PM
I liked the Davey Back arc for a bit. Afro-Luffy was pretty awesome, yeah, but I felt the added filler was bullshit. It was already enough and I honestly raged when they decided to redo the whole thing. It is down there as one of my least favourite arcs, mainly because I dislike Foxy and the other characters in it, but it was fun for an episode or two.

It did feel like filler at first though. I was quite surprised when I found out the first bit of it wasn't.

Pokota
02-10-2010, 08:54 PM
I've only skipped one chunk of One Piece ever. The one with the ice hockey and ice dancer villains. That was horrible.

J.CoolKid1412
02-11-2010, 05:39 PM
I fastforwarded some minor fights in Arabast and skipped all the flashbacks in Enies Lobby... Skypiea was good for most part and I only liked the last part of the Davey back arc... The Sabaody archipelago part is by far my favorite...

Jenaeve
02-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Spirited away has interested everyone...! Even my mom is getting into anime because of this movie....!

trixzter01
02-13-2010, 02:56 AM
Too bad fairy tail is not in the choices... XD but i'll vote for One Piece.. all of you knows why.... XD

Pokota
02-13-2010, 08:10 AM
Fairy Tail? Really? Serious? Much less over One Piece? You have any rationale that you'd be willing to share?

StormGuardian
02-13-2010, 11:41 AM
Voted for clannad.
Clannad all the way!!

^^

IanTheAmerican
02-13-2010, 12:59 PM
Fairy Tale's a pretty fun adventure manga.
Idk about the anime.

Kaixx
02-13-2010, 02:26 PM
Good seeing Monster do well. If One Piece were going to lose to anything I'd want it to be to that masterpiece.

Opace
02-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Good seeing Monster do well. If One Piece were going to lose to anything I'd want it to be to that masterpiece.

Death Note is doing better with 2 more votes, not that I agree with that anyway.

I'm wondering how many people have watched every series on that list. I've watched 9/15 of them so far, having not yet watched the more popular ones like FLCL, TTGL, Black Lagoon, Monster.

KEY-Fan
02-13-2010, 03:56 PM
I've only seen 5 :speechless:
However, everything that comes with Sci-Fi or Mechs is considered BS in an instant. So I can't really watch THAT many anyways.^^

Disclaimer: Regarding Mechs, this is only my opinion. Please do not feel offended. Thank you.



Voted for clannad.
Clannad all the way!!

^^

Finally best series gets Votes. Thanks. ;)

Pokota
02-13-2010, 06:50 PM
I'd be happy with either One Piece or Monster winning. I think we knew going in that anything with an appearance on Adult Swim would have an inherent advantage, so I'm quite pleased with Monster's showing. I've seen all or the majority of 9 anime on this list, and at least a portion of 13.

Succubus
02-13-2010, 08:02 PM
I can only vote one? boooo! *sad* I like 10 out of the 15 and prolly watched almost all on the list. But if I have to pick one since I so much like mind raep anime then I'd go for FLCL! Because I always imagine me riding a vespa with a badass guitar in my other hand! HUZZAH!

Lord of the Pikachu
02-14-2010, 10:06 AM
I did not know about Monster before this but now having watched the series I have to say it was one of the best I've watched. Overall it is a much smarter animé than pretty much every other one on the list.

J.CoolKid1412
02-14-2010, 06:11 PM
I'm wondering how many people have watched every series on that list.
I've watched and liked 9/15, (8 out of 9 is part of my Top20 all-time favorite anime series)
Death Note (2)
Monster (3)
Prince of Tennis (7)
One Piece (10)
Code Geass (12)
Full Metal Alchemist (13)
Hajime no Ippo (15)
Bleach (20)

watched and put on hold 1/15 (Black Lagoon)

I don't have any idea on 5/15 (FLCL, TTGL, Clannad, Howl's Moving Castle & Spirited Away)

swordsman
02-15-2010, 05:36 AM
Everyone has their own lists for themselfs and its called taste. But most of the animes in the poll are pretty good ones, I had watched 13 of them (FMA and howl's castle not).
Actually this list mostly tell (which I know from the start) one piece can feed almost any kind of people. Sure there are some kinds that made lots interest in itself, but there is no way to reach the level of OP. For me ( who has completed over 150 tv series), one piece is an anime that does not belong to this age but the whole humankind that paid a visit to this earth( And yes, I am serious).

Gamma
02-15-2010, 07:34 AM
I thought this was supposed to be about the best anime of the decade. Not what we were going to circle-jerk to for the next ten years. Are you freaking kidding me? One Piece has 11 votes and Sprited Away has three? Really?

StormGuardian
02-15-2010, 07:42 AM
Is one piece that great? haven't watched a single episode of it.

=D

Ian the Korean
02-15-2010, 09:26 AM
Is one piece that great? haven't watched a single episode of it.

=D

Yes.


I thought this was supposed to be about the best anime of the decade. Not what we were going to circle-jerk to for the next ten years. Are you freaking kidding me? One Piece has 11 votes and Sprited Away has three? Really?

One Piece is the best anime of the decade, hope this helps!

Reach
02-15-2010, 11:53 AM
Hmm ... Death Note anime. Never seen it (I assumed that it wasn't as good as the manga).

But I suppose it might have been the best. Voted Full Metal Alchemist.

San-Wildcat
02-15-2010, 05:41 PM
Go Black lagoon go!!!! I loved that anime!

ZeroKami
02-15-2010, 08:16 PM
How could I be the first vote for GTO?
And how the hell is One Piece winning?

IanTheAmerican
02-15-2010, 11:09 PM
How could I be the first vote for GTO?
And how the hell is One Piece winning?

GTO was great. Really fun spirited anime.
OP's still better, though.


I did not know about Monster before this but now having watched the series I have to say it was one of the best I've watched. Overall it is a much smarter animé than pretty much every other one on the list.

If we were voting for smartest, Ghost in the Shell would have won by leaps and bounds.

swordsman
02-16-2010, 12:10 AM
How could I be the first vote for GTO?
And how the hell is One Piece winning?
GTO loses its beat, op is not! Actually this is the only reason why op is the decede, even after over 400 episodes, its rhythm still amaze the people who watch it.

spazmaster666
02-16-2010, 07:32 PM
Since my choice isn't on there (it was between Ouran High School Host Club and Nodame Cantabile) I picked Code Geass. I'm kinda surprised that I was the only one who picked it so far.

Emarati
02-17-2010, 06:19 AM
One Piece!
Never did in the whole 400+ episodes did I feel any repetitive-ness in the series.

KEY-Fan
02-17-2010, 08:14 AM
One Piece!
Never did in the whole 400+ episodes did I feel any repetitive-ness in the series.

Then you have to read books while glancing with 1/4 of an eye at OP :) ;)
Each Luffy-fight is a repetition at that.^^

Ian the Korean
02-17-2010, 08:52 AM
Then you have to read books while glancing with 1/4 of an eye at OP :) ;)
Each Luffy-fight is a repetition at that.^^

They really aren't, you're kinda dumb if believe this is true lol

Emarati
02-17-2010, 09:16 AM
Then you have to read books while glancing with 1/4 of an eye at OP :) ;)
Each Luffy-fight is a repetition at that.^^

Not to me. Every fight has something fresh to it. Each new enemy has awesome unique abilities, from Buggy the Clown to Sir Crocodile to Enel to Gecko Moria to Warden Magallen. Their abilities make the fights different.

KEY-Fan
02-17-2010, 09:18 AM
They really aren't, you're kinda dumb if believe this is true lol
Even though calling someone dumb without using correct grammar looks weird^^
Well, I don't care if you call me dumb. It's my honest opinion though. I won't say it's a bad thing, because I like OP as well as Bleach and Naruto and imho they are all VERY repetative. But still its most of the time the same, at least what the protagonists are doing. Well, most of the time I'm with the antagonists anyway, and they are less repetetive too. ;)

However, I'm not exactly saying the fights Luffy had are all the same. But they are, to quite an extent, repetetive until something changes or something new comes up. Same goes for Zorro, Ussop, Naruto, Shikamaru, ICHIGO, Byakuya, Son Goku etc. too ;)


Not to me. Every fight has something fresh to it. Each new enemy has awesome unique abilities, from Buggy the Clown to Sir Crocodile to Enel to Gecko Moria to Warden Magallen. Their abilities make the fights different.

To some extent, see my posting above :)
Moreover, I'd say thats a point for the antagonists. My repetetive was mostly reffering to Luffy always going GumGum just like any other "overpowered" Hero out there ;)
(You might recognize I'm trying to not letting a fight Naruto vs. Bleach vs. OP occur. But that's just because it has not anything to do with that^^)

Emarati
02-17-2010, 09:38 AM
To some extent, see my posting above :)
Moreover, I'd say thats a point for the antagonists. My repetetive was mostly reffering to Luffy always going GumGum just like any other "overpowered" Hero out there ;)
(You might recognize I'm trying to not letting a fight Naruto vs. Bleach vs. OP occur. But that's just because it has not anything to do with that^^)

I don't know if you noticed but the repetitiveness in Luffy's moves has decreased. He has a wider variety of moves now. Nonetheless, this repetitiveness was not enough for me not to love One Piece.

Ian the Korean
02-17-2010, 11:07 AM
Even though calling someone dumb without using correct grammar looks weird^^
Well, I don't care if you call me dumb. It's my honest opinion though. I won't say it's a bad thing, because I like OP as well as Bleach and Naruto and imho they are all VERY repetative. But still its most of the time the same, at least what the protagonists are doing. Well, most of the time I'm with the antagonists anyway, and they are less repetetive too. ;)

However, I'm not exactly saying the fights Luffy had are all the same. But they are, to quite an extent, repetetive until something changes or something new comes up. Same goes for Zorro, Ussop, Naruto, Shikamaru, ICHIGO, Byakuya, Son Goku etc. too ;)

No sorry you're still dumb and do not warrant proper grammar

Deal with it

Please name two luffy fights you feel are repetitive or withdrawal your ridiculous opinion, thanks!

KEY-Fan
02-17-2010, 11:45 AM
No sorry you're still dumb and do not warrant proper grammar

Never read something this unqualified from a mod in any forums EVER.



Deal with itI won't have a problem with that though.


Please name two luffy fights you feel are repetitive or withdrawal your ridiculous opinion, thanks!No need for me to try to convince people like you. I already met enough people enlarging their e-peen in forums, but normally they aren't moderators. Because normale moderators should be grown up individuums which don't have it necessary to write things that offends people. Normally mods are there to stop postings like yours. :)

Well, at least this forum has an ignore list.

The only ridiculous thing here is a mod showing up like a 13y.o.

Pokota
02-17-2010, 03:31 PM
Never read something this unqualified from a mod in any forums EVER.


I won't have a problem with that though.

No need for me to try to convince people like you. I already met enough people enlarging their e-peen in forums, but normally they aren't moderators. Because normale moderators should be grown up individuums which don't have it necessary to write things that offends people. Normally mods are there to stop postings like yours. :)

Well, at least this forum has an ignore list.

The only ridiculous thing here is a mod showing up like a 13y.o.

I've never quite figured that one out, either. It does make the forum look bad.

I also agree with you about One Piece. Most of Luffy's boss fights are variations on a theme. He gets beat down, refuses to give up, and things get really intense. I know this. I also voted for One Piece, and think that it's an absolutely incredible anime, for lots and lots of reasons. Understanding that One Piece follows a certain plot sequence in no way means someone cannot enjoy it immensely. It's kind of silly thing to get defensive over.

Zer0
02-17-2010, 05:05 PM
I really don't understand how it's repetitive. If you can't provide examples your post looks silly and you don't what you're talking about.

Comparing naruto with one piece is ridiculous. All naruto does is rasegan kage bushin more rasegan more kage bushin. While in one piece you know who is going to win but the interesting thing is how, and you always you get something different.

This is not a good enough reason to bring OP down from the best. Kindly be quiet if you haven't watched one piece or at least give a good enough reason.

J.CoolKid1412
02-17-2010, 05:58 PM
I don't like the OP fights that much too (The same goes for other shounen series as well)... Maybe because I've seen so many anime fights since my childhood that I find the recent fight scenes kinda lame... It can also be attributed to the fact that I wanna know what would happen next so I normally fastforward the OP fights...

Ian the Korean
02-17-2010, 11:08 PM
I've never quite figured that one out, either. It does make the forum look bad.

I also agree with you about One Piece. Most of Luffy's boss fights are variations on a theme. He gets beat down, refuses to give up, and things get really intense. I know this. I also voted for One Piece, and think that it's an absolutely incredible anime, for lots and lots of reasons. Understanding that One Piece follows a certain plot sequence in no way means someone cannot enjoy it immensely. It's kind of silly thing to get defensive over.

Really not defensive over it, but beyond the incredibly general statement of "hurr durr shounen fights are all the same" it holds no water.


Never read something this unqualified from a mod in any forums EVER.


I won't have a problem with that though.

No need for me to try to convince people like you. I already met enough people enlarging their e-peen in forums, but normally they aren't moderators. Because normale moderators should be grown up individuums which don't have it necessary to write things that offends people. Normally mods are there to stop postings like yours. :)

Well, at least this forum has an ignore list.

The only ridiculous thing here is a mod showing up like a 13y.o.

And again you fail to provide any support for your argument, good job! I do apologize for calling you dumb though, as it was more the opinion itself I felt was dumb and it seems like you've completely melted down in reaction to it. So sorry about that.

IanTheAmerican
02-18-2010, 12:30 AM
OP fights are pretty damn short compared to others. Also, the past few arcs have all had VERY unique fights and endings.

To be quite frank, i think KEY-fan is just talking out of his ass.

Also, I'm still laughing at Gamma's rage. Spirited away was nice, but compared to other films from that studio, it's rather lackluster.

Why would anyone vote for DN?

crn_hzl
02-18-2010, 01:22 AM
TTGL is still the best all around show on that list. D:

Gamma
02-18-2010, 12:46 PM
Spirited Away was the only Ghibli film on the list, so I voted for it. If Grave of the Fireflies had been on there, I would have voted for that. You have to vote with what you're given.

One Piece is no better than Bleach or Naruto. Ok, so it's better than Naruto. But it's still not the best anime of the decade. Maybe the manga is good, I don't know. I haven't read it. But the anime is only middle of the road. Again, it's about quality, not what you're going to be drooling about in six weeks.

Ian the Korean
02-18-2010, 01:23 PM
And I'd say the quality of One Piece has only been going up since Arlong Park, ages ago. I'd say it's consistently been a great series for years. I'd put it's overall quality over that of any Ghibli film.

Volk
02-18-2010, 01:23 PM
Grave of the Fireflies was made in 1988 yo.

Pokota
02-18-2010, 04:35 PM
Again, it's about quality, not what you're going to be drooling about in six weeks.

I don't really understand your point here. One Piece has moments that I will always remember, that's one of the most special things about it, and yet another thing that separates it from Bleach or Naruto. Nami breaking down in the Arlong arc, the Straw Hats setting fire to the World Government flag, Luffy punching the Celestial Dragon in the face.

The Going Merry.

I love Ghibli. I've got like five or six Ghibli plushies. If this was a contest to name the best Studio then it wouldn't even be close. I'll always remember and cherish Totoro, or Mononoke Hime, or Grave of the Fireflies. Spirited Away was really good, but I can't honestly consider it in the same class as those. It just didn't stick with me the same way. I actually like Howl's Moving Castle more.

I will always remember the Going Merry. Spirited Away, not so much. One Piece is, strangely enough, the more emotionally powerful anime of the two.

Zer0
02-18-2010, 05:54 PM
The thing about OP is that it seems in immature show and that it has no emotional depth or characters. But that's the opposite, it has emotional depth, unique characters, and unbelievable development. It's one of the main reasons why OP is up there.

ANd it's ridicilous beyond belief that you would compare OP with something like naruto and bleach.

Gamma, you know something OP fails to do? It fails to be horrendously terrible for hundreds of chapters in a row like bleach and naruto. It gets better.
THe only reason I heard from you that OP is bad is because Luffy is stupid when it comes to logic? Seriously? If you watch more of OP you would realize the true nature of Luffy.
But seriously you're smarter than that, you can give a better reason besides luffy is dumb.

DDR Demon
02-18-2010, 07:32 PM
I think Monster deserves the title for its cinematic quality, original plot, and moral studies. But more importantly, it has no fillers.

J.CoolKid1412
02-19-2010, 06:41 AM
the Straw Hats setting fire to the World Government flag,
The Going Merry.


2 of the most memorable OP moments for me... I almost cried on the final Going Merry scene... Another one (which I think is just an effect of recency) is Luffy vs the Kuja Pirates... I'll be remembering Luffy for a while whenever I see some statues...

Monster had its moment too... I would forever remember Dr. Tenma's dilemma especially when I'm about to make a tough decision related to my work (even if we don't belong on the same field)...

Gamma
02-19-2010, 07:36 AM
You want a dissertation, fine.

I only mentioned Luffy was dumb in another thread because it didn't require any other explanation. That thread was about why Naruto was popular.

One Piece is predictable, has villains we've seen a thousand times in a thousand shounen animes, bland side arcs (notice I didn't say filler. Monster is the only series I've seen without at least some filler), and quite possibly the worst voice acting I've ever experienced in an anime. (Except for Bleach. Now THAT is horrible voice acting.) I'll give it this, I've seen some really great fights in the episodes I've watched. But that's about it. Great fights don't make a great anime.

I am in no way suggesting that Naruto, Bleach, or any other retarded Shounen anime is better. I'm suggesting that One Piece does not deserve the title of anime of the decade. When I think of a title such as anime of the decade, it brings to mind something that would define the decade, not what was most popular. In the oughts, anime emphasized unique storytelling, memorable characters, and animation technique. There is no difference between the kind of dream Luffy has, and the kind of dream Ash Ketchum has, or any other "kid with a dream" anime. You remember the characters only for those traits that resonate with yourself, the viewer. There is nothing unique about them, nothing that makes them their own person, unlike Abel Nightroad or Vash The Stampede. The animation might have an interesting flavor in that it is visually striking and you can immediately tell anything done by this animation house, but the facial expressions had 5 degrees, happy, sad, angry, nonchalant and confused. Any deviation appears to be a fluke on the animators part, as if they accidentally let someone with some life into the studio for a few minutes and forgot to edit it. Unlike Paranoia Agent, where the animation was so incredibly lifelike, I was phyically ill in a few places.

So when I say One Piece is not the anime of the decade, I don't just say that because I don't like the main character. I have my many and varied reasons. But to avoid walls of text which clearly, none of you will read, I don't share those reasons often.

Volk, I know Grave of the Fireflies was made in 1988. I mention it because I think it was arguably Ghibli's best offering. That's a different thread.

Kaixx
02-19-2010, 09:53 AM
The outcome of most of One Piece may be predictable but it's how it's done that matters, the villains haven't been done thousands of times before (so you're pretty much saying you've seen a villain who can turn into a natural element whenever he pleases, and many others with their own unique power), some of the side-arcs may be bland but they're still some of the best filler out there, the voice acting is nowhere near terrible.

One Piece is not the most popular anime of the decade. What honestly gave you that idea? If it were the most popular anime out there why do I see more people constantly talk about TTGL, Gundam, Clannad, Bleach, Naruto and so on. The stories and their pasts are wonderful - I pretty much sit in anticipation for each episode to find out what happens next. The characters are very memorable to me, usually in an anime I despise at least one or two main characters and in OP I don't. I seriously don't know an anime that has such a strong feeling for friendship and is able to do it without it being the cheesiest thing ever. The animation is nowhere near great, but it's fun. Unique =/= automatically the best. It has many generic shounen **** about it, but it's pretty much a polished version.

One Piece is anime of the decade, to me, because it manages to start off great and get better as the arcs go along. You get involved with the characters and you can feel their emotion. If their past is depressing, you feel depressed for them. If their past is happy, you feel happy for them. As someone said earlier, One Piece is one of the most emotional series out there. The Going Merry moment really did feel like losing one of the crew.

As for Grave of the Fireflies, I loved it. But in no way do I think it has unique storytelling or memorable characters. I guess it's unique that it started with how the main guy (yes, I don't even know his name, that's how memorable he was to me) would end up like in the end, but aside from that not really.

You're obviously welcome to your opinion but I'm gonna guess and say you dislike the shounen genre as it is anyway.

Fuer Grissa Ost Drauka
02-19-2010, 10:57 AM
My personal favorite is a toss up between Claymore and Bleach. I cannae decide.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 11:37 AM
The outcome of most of One Piece may be predictable but it's how it's done that matters, the villains haven't been done thousands of times before (so you're pretty much saying you've seen a villain who can turn into a natural element whenever he pleases, and many others with their own unique power), some of the side-arcs may be bland but they're still some of the best filler out there, the voice acting is nowhere near terrible.

One Piece is not the most popular anime of the decade. What honestly gave you that idea? If it were the most popular anime out there why do I see more people constantly talk about TTGL, Gundam, Clannad, Bleach, Naruto and so on. The stories and their pasts are wonderful - I pretty much sit in anticipation for each episode to find out what happens next. The characters are very memorable to me, usually in an anime I despise at least one or two main characters and in OP I don't. I seriously don't know an anime that has such a strong feeling for friendship and is able to do it without it being the cheesiest thing ever. The animation is nowhere near great, but it's fun. Unique =/= automatically the best. It has many generic shounen **** about it, but it's pretty much a polished version.

One Piece is anime of the decade, to me, because it manages to start off great and get better as the arcs go along. You get involved with the characters and you can feel their emotion. If their past is depressing, you feel depressed for them. If their past is happy, you feel happy for them. As someone said earlier, One Piece is one of the most emotional series out there. The Going Merry moment really did feel like losing one of the crew.

As for Grave of the Fireflies, I loved it. But in no way do I think it has unique storytelling or memorable characters. I guess it's unique that it started with how the main guy (yes, I don't even know his name, that's how memorable he was to me) would end up like in the end, but aside from that not really.

You're obviously welcome to your opinion but I'm gonna guess and say you dislike the shounen genre as it is anyway.

I agree with that, of all of the anime i have watched, there is NO other one that does these things. (Get better and better progressavely) and has the most unique villins. Its competition is probably Naruto, for the sole reason that naruto the original was great, and I loved it, but now it is really just repeating in a cycle, and I am only watching it now to wait for a funny filler, or wait for it to reclaim its glory. One Piece has a good balence of drama, comedy, and lots of other themes, and also, actually fills out the role of ADVENTURE. I mean, they never visit the same place twice. Naruto, sure he goes to other villages, but its not often enough. Same with bleach, even though Bleach is more adventure-y then naruto. I would say saiyuki, because it is my favorite anime, and its hilarious with an A ranking plot, it just doent beat one piece, in anything. Except the comidy is close.

Ian the Korean
02-19-2010, 12:20 PM
I think one of my favorite things about OP is while it may have seemingly predictable villains and whatnot, every single one they've run into since they entered the grandline is still just as much of a threat as they were originally. There has not been this enormous powerslide occurring that happens in every other shounen series as it goes along. The big bad guys and strong people are all still respectively outpowering the lesser characters when they face off. I mean ****, Starwhat pirates have been on a losing streak because of this for pretty much over a year now in the story.

I''ll definitely give you that Luffy's dream to become the pirate king isn't exactly some groundbreaking plot concept, however in the current age of piracy in that world, almost every other pirate is disenchanted with such childish dreams, having been setback by various defeats, which we come to know about as the story progresses. It'd be like if almost every other trainer in pokemon was part of team rocket, only using pokemon as tools to make money. So in that way, he is somewhat unique. But while his driving motivation is somewhat generic, his whole motivation in becoming the pirate king is to go on an exciting adventure with his friends. It's very simple but it allows for the supporting cast to take the lead frequently in their various goals. I mean one of the most interesting sort of "sideplots" going on has to be the "lost century" that happened previously, of which all records are erased aside from these enormouse stone blocks with glyphs left by some other civilization. But the world government is suppressing any attempts at gaining that knowledge by any means necessary.

Another thing I love in One Piece, is the world government. The actual law enforcement in the series is frequently the opposing side to the main characters which is a nice change of pace from a lot of shounen series. There's also a hell of a lot more shades of gray among the characters themselves on both sides. Among the pirates, you've got the "good" crews like the Strawhats, among others who are pretty much out there doing the piratey thing for the adventure of it. I mean, Luffy is often times even helping out the local populace against more corrupt and "evil" crews who are extorting the locals or otherwise abusing their power. On the far end of the "evil" spectrum you've got pirates like Doflamingo who is abusing his power to the point that he's even dabbling in slavery to make a buck. Probably my favorite non-strawhat pirate, would be Blackbeard who is almost certainly meant to be a badguy but is essentially a "darker" version of Luffy. His dream is the same, become the pirate king. However he's done all sorts of villianous acts to facilitate his dream, from killing a former crew member to obtain his power, to obliterating a town when capturing Luffy's brother. And then in the actual world government itself, you've got characters like Luffy's grandfather, Vice Admiral Garp, Smoker, and Colby, who seem to stick with your stereotypical do-gooder mentality and are actively working for the betterment of the world. You've also got tons of jerks in it who are abusing their position and are no better than many of the pirates themselves, often times abusing the local populace as well, in the name of Justice. Then you've got the sorts like Admiral Aikanu who has no problem shock and aweing an entire island into little more than debris for the greater good, as he sees it from his perspective. There's just a real nice variety of flavor among the numerous characters that keeps it from feeling like say, Bleach or Naruto, which very distinct good and bad guys.

You also don't have luffy really "powerleveling" so much as coming up with more unique ways of using his unique ability. While it'd probably be fair to say his different "gear moves" stack up in terms of raw power, in the order you'd expect (Gear third is better than Gear second, is better than his regular attacks) He's frequently fighting such diverse groups of opponents that he still relies on his basic arsenal at times. It's not the usual shounen powerup series, where you've got the main character and everyone else learning a new super attack more super and more powerful than the super attack they learned the previous week. It's more like you've got an entire array of characters, each with their own tool box of attacks that they use interchangeably as the situation dictates. It's rare that it comes down to simply ZOMGWTF NEWEST SHINIEST SUPER MOVE VS NEWEST SHINIEST SUPER MOVE.

I'd even say you could call One Piece linear in a fashion, in that the overall plot direction has been Luffy moving from point A (his hometown in East Blue) to point B (Raftel at the end of the Grandline). However, on numerous occasions Oda has managed to throw a wrench in that seemingly simple plan, such as the sky islands being a major hurdle in continuing on their path on the grand line, and more recently the whole situation involving Shaobody Archipelago and Impel Down, when they were supposed to be heading to Fishman Island. It really never has felt, for me anyway, like the stories dragging or meandering. When it has sidetracked here and there, the plot twists and exposition given felt more than worthwhile as it's regularly expanded the depth of the world and characters.

I dunno, I think a lot of people simply write off One Piece as your typical shounen series without giving it a second glance, and I can't blame them too much as you need to get in around 70 chapters or a about 20-30 episodes I think? for it to really shine. But once it does, it has never had a low point; everything has only been building and exceeding the previous arc. Which is why I do think it deserves anime of the decade, I can't think of any series that's been airing the entire decade (and more) and managed to do the same. Especially considering it was well into the storyline by 2000.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 12:44 PM
I think one of my favorite things about OP is while it may have seemingly predictable villains and whatnot, every single one they've run into since they entered the grandline is still just as much of a threat as they were originally. There has not been this enormous powerslide occurring that happens in every other shounen series as it goes along. The big bad guys and strong people are all still respectively outpowering the lesser characters when they face off. I mean ****, Starwhat pirates have been on a losing streak because of this for pretty much over a year now in the story.

I''ll definitely give you that Luffy's dream to become the pirate king isn't exactly some groundbreaking plot concept, however in the current age of piracy in that world, almost every other pirate is disenchanted with such childish dreams, having been setback by various defeats, which we come to know about as the story progresses. It'd be like if almost every other trainer in pokemon was part of team rocket, only using pokemon as tools to make money. So in that way, he is somewhat unique. But while his driving motivation is somewhat generic, his whole motivation in becoming the pirate king is to go on an exciting adventure with his friends. It's very simple but it allows for the supporting cast to take the lead frequently in their various goals. I mean one of the most interesting sort of "sideplots" going on has to be the "lost century" that happened previously, of which all records are erased aside from these enormouse stone blocks with glyphs left by some other civilization. But the world government is suppressing any attempts at gaining that knowledge by any means necessary.

Another thing I love in One Piece, is the world government. The actual law enforcement in the series is frequently the opposing side to the main characters which is a nice change of pace from a lot of shounen series. There's also a hell of a lot more shades of gray among the characters themselves on both sides. Among the pirates, you've got the "good" crews like the Strawhats, among others who are pretty much out there doing the piratey thing for the adventure of it. I mean, Luffy is often times even helping out the local populace against more corrupt and "evil" crews who are extorting the locals or otherwise abusing their power. On the far end of the "evil" spectrum you've got pirates like Doflamingo who is abusing his power to the point that he's even dabbling in slavery to make a buck. Probably my favorite non-strawhat pirate, would be Blackbeard who is almost certainly meant to be a badguy but is essentially a "darker" version of Luffy. His dream is the same, become the pirate king. However he's done all sorts of villianous acts to facilitate his dream, from killing a former crew member to obtain his power, to obliterating a town when capturing Luffy's brother. And then in the actual world government itself, you've got characters like Luffy's grandfather, Vice Admiral Garp, Smoker, and Colby, who seem to stick with your stereotypical do-gooder mentality and are actively working for the betterment of the world. You've also got tons of jerks in it who are abusing their position and are no better than many of the pirates themselves, often times abusing the local populace as well, in the name of Justice. Then you've got the sorts like Admiral Aikanu who has no problem shock and aweing an entire island into little more than debris for the greater good, as he sees it from his perspective. There's just a real nice variety of flavor among the numerous characters that keeps it from feeling like say, Bleach or Naruto, which very distinct good and bad guys.

You also don't have luffy really "powerleveling" so much as coming up with more unique ways of using his unique ability. While it'd probably be fair to say his different "gear moves" stack up in terms of raw power, in the order you'd expect (Gear third is better than Gear second, is better than his regular attacks) He's frequently fighting such diverse groups of opponents that he still relies on his basic arsenal at times. It's not the usual shounen powerup series, where you've got the main character and everyone else learning a new super attack more super and more powerful than the super attack they learned the previous week. It's more like you've got an entire array of characters, each with their own tool box of attacks that they use interchangeably as the situation dictates. It's rare that it comes down to simply ZOMGWTF NEWEST SHINIEST SUPER MOVE VS NEWEST SHINIEST SUPER MOVE.

I'd even say you could call One Piece linear in a fashion, in that the overall plot direction has been Luffy moving from point A (his hometown in East Blue) to point B (Raftel at the end of the Grandline). However, on numerous occasions Oda has managed to throw a wrench in that seemingly simple plan, such as the sky islands being a major hurdle in continuing on their path on the grand line, and more recently the whole situation involving Shaobody Archipelago and Impel Down, when they were supposed to be heading to Fishman Island. It really never has felt, for me anyway, like the stories dragging or meandering. When it has sidetracked here and there, the plot twists and exposition given felt more than worthwhile as it's regularly expanded the depth of the world and characters.

I dunno, I think a lot of people simply write off One Piece as your typical shounen series without giving it a second glance, and I can't blame them too much as you need to get in around 70 chapters or a about 20-30 episodes I think? for it to really shine. But once it does, it has never had a low point; everything has only been building and exceeding the previous arc. Which is why I do think it deserves anime of the decade, I can't think of any series that's been airing the entire decade (and more) and managed to do the same. Especially considering it was well into the storyline by 2000.

0.0
i dont think i could write that much ever. 0.0

but yeah, i agree with that, especially with the last paragraph!! *uses extendable pointer*
Everybody watches the first episode, and says "ah, this is too childish for me" I personally like those, but most people don't. However, it does a great job bringing in the 'core' of the crew, and it gets better.

Yeah, the linear is perfect for OP, because thats how it is, it just beats its last debut in terms of ... goodness.

its awesome people!!!!!!!
^--- summing up the essey. ;)

Gamma
02-19-2010, 01:11 PM
Look, it's fine if that's what you like. And its great that you can come up with a lot of articulate reasons for why you like it, that shows that you're watching it with a discerning eye. But I notice that people keep citing a few specific moments in the series. The Going Merry and so forth. Yes, they keep coming up because they are highlights of the series. But that's all they are, highlights. Just punctuation in long sentences of mediocrity. There's nothing in it that makes me say, WOW. There's a lot of well, I didn't see that coming, and oh, that was cute, and lol wtf. But nothing that makes me say that this particular anime, above all others, defined an entire decade of anime. That's like saying that Chowder completely defines a decade of Cartoon Network offerings because a lot of people like Chowder because he has a pet fart-cloud.

I just don't think people understand what they are voting for and it turns into another favorites thread, that's all.

Ian the Korean
02-19-2010, 01:25 PM
It isn't a series of mediocrity though, lol. The high points beat out every other show out there, the "mediocre points" as you call them I'd compare to the high points of other shows on this list.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 02:08 PM
Look, it's fine if that's what you like. And its great that you can come up with a lot of articulate reasons for why you like it, that shows that you're watching it with a discerning eye. But I notice that people keep citing a few specific moments in the series. The Going Merry and so forth. Yes, they keep coming up because they are highlights of the series. But that's all they are, highlights. Just punctuation in long sentences of mediocrity. There's nothing in it that makes me say, WOW. There's a lot of well, I didn't see that coming, and oh, that was cute, and lol wtf. But nothing that makes me say that this particular anime, above all others, defined an entire decade of anime. That's like saying that Chowder completely defines a decade of Cartoon Network offerings because a lot of people like Chowder because he has a pet fart-cloud.

I just don't think people understand what they are voting for and it turns into another favorites thread, that's all.

lolz, i do love that fart cloud.

but the 'mediocre points' are just waht always hapens, mediocre only when comparin g it to the other scenes of One Piece. Just like the Arlong arc (if noones mentioned it) It wasnt as striking as Robins CP9 showdown, but it still was pretty groundbreaking. It was actually put i nplace as mediocrety. Same thing with entering the Grand line, and Laboon. Both 'mediocre' points, but that are compareable to high points of bleach and anruto, to name a few. Not to mention, Laboon comes back, in the form of Brook. :D

\ returns now with fiber!
02-19-2010, 03:06 PM
I think the Adult Swim version ruined the series for me. I despised One Piece when it was shown Adult Swim then a few months later I started hearing rumors that they did a particularly horrible job of translating over dialogue and character traits.

Guess I'll have to give it another shot.

Pokota
02-19-2010, 04:46 PM
Look, it's fine if that's what you like. And its great that you can come up with a lot of articulate reasons for why you like it, that shows that you're watching it with a discerning eye. But I notice that people keep citing a few specific moments in the series. The Going Merry and so forth. Yes, they keep coming up because they are highlights of the series. But that's all they are, highlights. Just punctuation in long sentences of mediocrity. There's nothing in it that makes me say, WOW. There's a lot of well, I didn't see that coming, and oh, that was cute, and lol wtf. But nothing that makes me say that this particular anime, above all others, defined an entire decade of anime. That's like saying that Chowder completely defines a decade of Cartoon Network offerings because a lot of people like Chowder because he has a pet fart-cloud.

I just don't think people understand what they are voting for and it turns into another favorites thread, that's all.

Actually, I was having a very hard time narrowing down the moments that make One Piece special for me, but I did so in the name of brevity. I can probably name fifteen or twenty, if you want?

As far as One Piece being predictable, sure. In the short run you know what the likely sequence of events will be. But really, so what? I've read good, enjoyable novels where I correctly guessed that the good guys would win. What about Ghibli? Did you really think Spirited Away would end any other way? It's the journey that is important, for the most part, and the journey in One Piece is fantastic. The story is on-going and far-reaching, with both protagonists and antagonists all progressing towards a point that is still a mystery.

One Piece also shouldn't be discounted for being a long series. Yes, it's had it's mediocre sections, but the highlights have more than made up for it, and then some, and it still remains consistently excellent.

I understand completely what I am voting for. One Piece is something that will always stick with me. The passion, the emotion, the characters, the story, all of it. Someone made a thread not long ago asking for suggestions for anime like One Piece. Almost everyone in the thread was forced to concede that, really, there is no other anime like One Piece. That it can have some of the same base characteristics as the other anime you named and still be so powerful and unique is exactly why I think One Piece was the anime of the decade.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 05:16 PM
I think the Adult Swim version ruined the series for me. I despised One Piece when it was shown Adult Swim then a few months later I started hearing rumors that they did a particularly horrible job of translating over dialogue and character traits.

Guess I'll have to give it another shot.

yeah, we (the usa) BUTCHERED one piece.
T.T
it was a very sad, sad day.

I agree pokota, unescapably, one pice had one or two mediocre times (that were truly mediocre) like the fat guy arc.... though it was kind of funny. I definitally think that OP is the anime of the decade.

Zer0
02-19-2010, 05:19 PM
ehh some of the fights are predictable like every other shonen out there but they way it does it is amazing. Yes, in short term one piece might be predictable, but on the long run it has have amazing twists.

IanTheAmerican
02-19-2010, 05:59 PM
ehh the fights are predictable like every other shonen out there but they way it does it is amazing. Yes, in short term one piece might be predictable, but on the long run it can have some amazing twists.

Not necessarily. There's numerous times where the strawhats lose a fight. I'd like to add more, but Ian has really encapsulated One Piece.

After 500+ chapters, I still can't discern what's going to happen next, and how a character's going to react to a situation.

Also, one of the major things about OP that I've never seen in another Anime is the high skill level Oda has for character design. The number of unique, interestingly drawn and imaginative characters Oda has come up with is astounding. And no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 07:15 PM
Not necessarily. There's numerous times where the strawhats lose a fight. I'd like to add more, but Ian has really encapsulated One Piece.

After 500+ chapters, I still can't discern what's going to happen next, and how a character's going to react to a situation.

Also, one of the major things about OP that I've never seen in another Anime is the high skill level Oda has for character design. The number of unique, interestingly drawn and imaginative characters Oda has come up with is astounding. And no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has.

yeah, ive never seen any character CLOSE to usopp, to name but one. :D
Not too mention the in depth histories and goals that they have.

Zer0
02-19-2010, 07:26 PM
yeah, ive never seen any character CLOSE to usopp, to name but one. :D
Not too mention the in depth histories and goals that they have.

I've realized that too. When I read history and stuff it always reminds of One piece. Like WB's moby dick ship i read that and many others I forgot. Oda is also inspired by real people he meets, like he said, which makes the characters so unique.

Meepoman
02-19-2010, 07:28 PM
I've realized that too. When I read history and stuff it always reminds of One piece. Like WB's moby dick ship i read that and many others I forgot. Oda is also inspired by real people he meets, like he said, which makes the characters so unique.

yeah, because they may be based off of real people, and they would recognize it, but nobody else would, and theyd be lifelike. ^^
and yeah theres all kinds of different references to real life, and literature.
blackbeard himself, kidd, the moby dick, (immature laughing noise^^) and Gol D Roger, are but a few. ^^

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 07:59 AM
And no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has.

Your definition of character design is retarded.

KingNothing
02-20-2010, 08:26 AM
Your definition of character design is retarded.

Way to refute those claims.

Ian the Korean
02-20-2010, 09:06 AM
Your definition of character design is retarded.

I know a lot of people who definitely don't like Oda's style, but it's foolish to suggest that he doesn't have some of the most varied looking characters of any shounen series out there. I'd give you a lot of his female characters have a similiar hourglass figure, especially early on, but after Amazon Lily Island he's definitely shown a wide variety for that gender.

Zer0
02-20-2010, 09:13 AM
Oda's style if very unique and it has sure changed a lot since heck a long time ago. But if you take naruto and bleach for example where the art is like bunch of black **** on the wall and seeing what sticks, and someone with a how to draw a manga guide could draw it. Naruto and bleach style is just extremely boring to look at it.

KingNothing
02-20-2010, 09:18 AM
I wouldn't got that far Zero. I actually quite like Bleach's style. However I will say myself that the design for One Piece almost turned me off. I am glad I did not let it because the stories of the different arcs are so captivating.

As for the claims that the fights are repetitive. When Luffy was fighting Enel and could not hit him. I had no idea how he was going to do it. I did not expect him to punch the walls and use his arms to ricochet so that he couldn't see what Luffy was doing. I like the fact that One Piece likes to make the characters develop with new abilities instead of just blatent power increases. How could you not think One Piece wasn't anime of the decade material when it has run the full length of the last decade? Sure you have your Bleach's and Naruto's but even with Bleach if it were not for the filler it would be accepted so much more than it already is.

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 09:21 AM
I don't mind the animation. What I mean is, the definition of character design doesn't simply encompass aesthetics. There are a lot of other anime characters that have more depth and personality than One Piece characters. So I really don't think "no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has" is valid.

Zer0
02-20-2010, 09:31 AM
I wouldn't got that far Zero. I actually quite like Bleach's style. However I will say myself that the design for One Piece almost turned me off. I am glad I did not let it because the stories of the different arcs are so captivating.

As for the claims that the fights are repetitive. When Luffy was fighting Enel and could not hit him. I had no idea how he was going to do it. I did not expect him to punch the walls and use his arms to ricochet so that he couldn't see what Luffy was doing. I like the fact that One Piece likes to make the characters develop with new abilities instead of just blatent power increases. How could you not think One Piece wasn't anime of the decade material when it has run the full length of the last decade? Sure you have your Bleach's and Naruto's but even with Bleach if it were not for the filler it would be accepted so much more than it already is.

I was little bit too harsh. But sometimes when I read the manga in bleach its really annoying because you can read it in like what 30 seconds and you get this weird black things that cover an entire page. Though I think it has that **** anymore.


The fights in One Piece are not repetitive. There is handful that are completely unpredictable because luffy is crazy.



I
don't mind the animation. What I mean is, the definition of character design doesn't simply encompass aesthetics. There are a lot of other anime characters that have more depth and personality than One Piece characters. So I really don't think "no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has" is valid.


First of all how much of one piece have you read/watch?

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 09:55 AM
The first 22 episodes. Not that it should matter.

Ian the Korean
02-20-2010, 10:28 AM
The first 22 episodes. Not that it should matter.

Yeah it kinda does actually, lol

Meepoman
02-20-2010, 10:41 AM
The first 22 episodes. Not that it should matter.


=-=
ok, first 22 episodes..... go watch some more, and THEN comment on character develupment..... thats only what? the first three of the SH crew?

Emarati
02-20-2010, 11:00 AM
The first 22 episodes. Not that it should matter.

I don't mean to offend you, kind sir, but you haven't tasted the awesome flavor of One Piece with only the first 22 episodes.

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 11:12 AM
no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has.

We are talking about character design, which doesn't only include development, but the characters morals, dreams, interests, etc. too.

Plus development can be established in a short amount of time. Most anime series are less than 26 episodes after all. And look at movies. One Piece is slow paced.

Meepoman
02-20-2010, 11:31 AM
We are talking about character design, which doesn't only include development, but the characters morals, dreams, interests, etc. too.

Plus development can be established in a short amount of time. Most anime series are less than 26 episodes after all. And look at movies. One Piece is slow paced.

i mean to offend you good sir, if you can give up an anime at episode 22, out of 500 or so, then come and say that it lacks character develupment, and creation, you sir, are an idiot. Thats still the stage where they are being INTRODUCED. and so im done. v.v :)

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 11:56 AM
I never said it lacked character development. I said it was slow paced.

Ian the Korean
02-20-2010, 11:59 AM
Definitely slow paced while Luffy is still building his crew; which should be understandable. Once he's got his first 4 crewmates, it picks up drastically. Which would be Arlong Park and onward.

Meepoman
02-20-2010, 12:04 PM
Definitely slow paced while Luffy is still building his crew; which should be understandable. Once he's got his first 4 crewmates, it picks up drastically. Which would be Arlong Park and onward.

*bows to ian, the master of knowladge*

which would be episodes 34 and above or so. ^^

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 12:45 PM
Yeah that's great and all but this is still bullshit and you know it:


no other series has EVER touched the level of character design that one piece has.

Ian the Korean
02-20-2010, 12:55 PM
Yeah that's great and all but this is still bullshit and you know it:

Yeah I'll agree that's more fanboyism and hyperbole, but I'd definitely say Oda does a great job of designing very unique looking characters; he isn't afraid of making them ugly.

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 01:10 PM
That's what I wanted to hear. ;)

Anyways, congrats to One Piece. I knew one of the shonen titles would win.

IanTheAmerican
02-20-2010, 01:56 PM
Holy balls, ddr you're a mega derp. I completely stand by my statement. Google "Character Design," do you see ANYTHING about "character dreams or ambitions?"

Character design is the visual aspect of a drawn character. There are LITERALLY hundreds (http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Characters_by_Years) of uniquely and interestingly drawn characters throughout One Piece.

Learn what you're talking about before spouting nonsense.

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 02:10 PM
So then what do you call it when you give a character personality?

IanTheAmerican
02-20-2010, 03:01 PM
So then what do you call it when you give a character personality?

Uhhh... writing?

DDR Demon
02-20-2010, 05:39 PM
Err, I would still argue that it is a part of the character's design. I think what you are refferring to is "concept art"?

Ian the Korean
02-20-2010, 05:46 PM
I dunno, when I think "character design" I'm thinking strictly the art aspects. When you're talking about the motivations and personality, the writing portion, I think the word you're looking for is "characterization."

Meepoman
02-20-2010, 07:18 PM
I dunno, when I think "character design" I'm thinking strictly the art aspects. When you're talking about the motivations and personality, the writing portion, I think the word you're looking for is "characterization."

yeah, characterzation. <--- spelling butchered.

yeaaaaaaaaah op is the anime of the decade~!~~
i think.

Zer0
02-20-2010, 09:43 PM
I would say one Piece's character design and chracteriziation are equally impressive. Now there is very few that can come close to OP.

KT Samurai
02-21-2010, 03:03 AM
The character design in "One Piece" is pretty respectable. Early in the manga the art is kind rough but still very dynamic and interesting to look at. But from the little bit I've seen Oda improves quite a lot in a short amount of time. His designs are definitely "unique" and not everyone's cup of tea (I hate how a lot of characters look) but you'd recognize them a mile away.

Gamma
02-24-2010, 03:14 PM
I will absolutely agree that the style is distinctive and you immediately know what you are watching. And from what I'm given to understand, the anime as it aired in Japan is not only superior but not necessarily for children. But given the plot and premise, I just don't think that makes much of a difference. At the end of the day, I still don't think that One Piece defines an entire decade of anime. Perhaps your typical anime watcher, but not all anime.

Ian the Korean
02-24-2010, 03:51 PM
I will absolutely agree that the style is distinctive and you immediately know what you are watching. And from what I'm given to understand, the anime as it aired in Japan is not only superior but not necessarily for children. But given the plot and premise, I just don't think that makes much of a difference. At the end of the day, I still don't think that One Piece defines an entire decade of anime. Perhaps your typical anime watcher, but not all anime.

I guess I kind of thought the whole purpose of thise poll and event was "what your average anime watcher thinks was the defining series" not necessarily what your hardcore anime fan who watches something like say Monster, which is obviously a brilliant series, thinks is best.

I mean, like award shows that you see for movies and music like the oscars, grammy, emmy, etc. often times pick something I might personally find more "low brow" that appealed to the masses more than actually succeeding at being "the best" of the choices.

IanTheAmerican
02-24-2010, 05:39 PM
I will absolutely agree that the style is distinctive and you immediately know what you are watching. And from what I'm given to understand, the anime as it aired in Japan is not only superior but not necessarily for children. But given the plot and premise, I just don't think that makes much of a difference. At the end of the day, I still don't think that One Piece defines an entire decade of anime. Perhaps your typical anime watcher, but not all anime.

Yeah... well that's just like, your opinion, man... (http://www.flixster.com/actor/jeff-bridges-videos/the-big-lebowski---your-opinion-man-10844391)

Pokota
02-24-2010, 05:44 PM
At the end of the day, I still don't think that One Piece defines an entire decade of anime. Perhaps your typical anime watcher, but not all anime.

One Piece has action, humor, passion, conflict, a huge, far-reaching story, and some of the most powerful and emotionally-charged moments I've experienced in anime. I truly don't understand what you mean, not unless you're saying NO anime can really represent ALL anime, which is probably true, but that doesn't seem to be where you're coming from. On top of that, you hold up Spirited Away to be a better example of what anime is? Spirited Away was good, but it was also quirky, whimsical, and ultimately, nonsensical. It wasn't even like most Ghibli anime, much less anime in general.

The back-handed insult about typical anime watchers aside, I think that perhaps you should look at the members of this forum who did vote for One Piece. Many of them are far from typical anime fans. You've got a lot of jaded elitists mixed in, who will tell you that most anime is crap, and don't even seriously follow anime nowadays. A lot of non-otaku, non-fankids. A lot of people who view anime with a cold and critical eye, who really, really like One Piece. That should tell you something.

jackportd
02-27-2010, 04:42 AM
Hello guy

Its not for me. Every fight has something fresh to it. Each new enemy has awesome unique abilities, from Buggy the Clown to Sir Crocodile to Enel to Gecko Moria to Warden Magallen. Their abilities make the fights different.

What you say for that?
Have a good time.

Kaixx
02-27-2010, 07:16 AM
I never realised I was the typical anime viewer. Considering the fact I don't watch much anime at the moment, I hate most "supa dupa kawaii" bullshit that is always popular, I don't watch Bleach or Naruto and anime like Monster, Baccano!, Gankutsuou, Nodame Cantabile are all up there in my favourite anime.

Even though I love all of these and more I've not mentioned I just can't say they're better than One Piece. No matter how much I enjoyed them there's always a part in One Piece I've enjoyed more.

J.CoolKid1412
02-27-2010, 09:04 PM
Even though I love all of these and more I've not mentioned I just can't say they're better than One Piece. No matter how much I enjoyed them there's always a part in One Piece I've enjoyed more.
I share the same sentiment... Even though 9 anime series ranks higher than OP on my favorite list, I only consider Monster better than OP... Both are complete series but then I like mystery/suspense more than action/adventure nowadays.

Aerui
07-06-2010, 07:46 PM
I think Death Note definitely deserves this name.

dfuson
07-06-2010, 08:51 PM
My pic isn't even in here. But definitely not One Piece. :(