How often do you want to comment on closed topics?

[KT Samurai]

Topics are closed on A4 for many reasons, sometimes because these topics are announcements, sometimes to stop spam before it can even happen, sometimes because users have become malicious and moderators have deemed the topic too damaged to recover. When see a locked forum thread what is your first impulse? Do you want to comment on what happened, do you want to try to save a discussion, do you want to get in a playful jab at everyone in the situation?

Also, why are some open stickied topics devoid of any comments at all? There are a few open stickied threads here on A4 that are many months old but have zero replies, even in some cases where the author encourages them. Why would you avoid these topics? Disinterest? Distrust? Lack of motivation?

[^_Elysium_^]

I want to common in a closed thread as soon as I see a Mod or Admin do it.

It makes me jealous.

[Oh Snap.]

If a stickied thread has no replies than the person who stickied it messed up.

As for closed topics, I like to read them for the lulz (theres usually lulz, intentional or otherwise) so maybe the non-goatse ones could be left lingering around instead of sending them to the bin of doom asap. If I feel like posting its usually to comment on why the thread was locked or add to the sh1tposts.

[Neji195]

Sometimes i just wanna get the last word in, like if there was a last word button so i can end the thread.

[sixc]

I've seen a couple of good threads closed for being derailed right after they'd gotten back on topic, and I did sort of want to reply and shake the mod, but not really. Don't quite care enough to.

[Foxyknoxicle]

I rarely feel the urge to comment on closed topics. I'm cool with the whole - start a new thread if you want to continue the discussion in a civilized manner - approach. That is the rule for suitable subjects, right?

As for stickies, they're not too different from any other post, in my opinion. If I'm interested in the subject material I'll post in it. As a side note, the Olympics sticky rocked!

[Ian the Korean]

Eh I think some people's attitude in this thread is exactly why it's important to lock threads; letting people continue to ravage one another as they please just causes even more drama. Granted, locking threads doesn't really prevent it, but at least then they're forced to take it to walls or PMs or whatever and it's slightly less of a public spectacle. Personally I'd just assume let F&G be an "anything goes" flame forum since it's already serving that purpose in many ways.

[Zer0]

I don't care much really. But sometimes I just want to get the last word. It happened to me about more than twice where I have a lengthy post and when I click "submit reply " it says thread is locked. Or I want to have the last say. But oh well.

[Oh Snap.]

'Fun And Flames.'

Do it.

[^_Elysium_^]

'Fun And Flames.'

Do it.
We had that, it was called the Tinychat thread. Ian shut that down.

[Kewkehtsu]

I'm in the same boat as Ely, I want to be able to do it when mods do it :3

[Ian the Korean]

We had that, it was called the Tinychat thread. Ian shut that down.

Why do you need a chat thread to talk about a chat instead of you know, talking in the chat? Bit too meta for my taste. Beyond the fact that is was nothing but trolling and I'd have less of a headache now if I'd just straight up banned the lot of you for it.

And almost all the time when mods post in a locked thread it's explaining why it got locked, for the users benefit.

[Kenshin Gordon]

I agree with the locks in most cases, there usually is spam/troll/both and the conversation goes out of control and topic, no further reason for it to exist.

[FROIDBUSTER]

You should add a Freedom poll where we use Democracy to vote on whether a thread gets locked or not. If a thread gets more votes for the lock it will stay locked until it gets more votes for unlock. There is no possible downside to such a wonderfully democratic process, unless you're a fascist communist.

[Johnny Couth]

100% of the time.






You should add a Freedom poll where we use Democracy to vote on whether a thread gets locked or not. If a thread gets more votes for the lock it will stay locked until it gets more votes for unlock. There is no possible downside to such a wonderfully democratic process, unless you're a fascist communist.
^ Brilliant

[Ian the Korean]

Sorry I am a fascist communist. ;(

[Johnny Couth]

Sorry I am a fascist communist. ;(
No surprise here.

[Haduken]

Only 2-3 times since i've been here have I wanted to post in a locked thread but as it turned out, it is still possible to live on without doing so.


With stickies I reply if I feel the need to. Not all stickies are of the utmost importance to me.


Sorry I am a fascist communist. ;(

Don't apologize man, it's them who have the problem......

[Mr. X & Mr. Y]

For the OP:

The point is I don't care, neither do others. Why would they..? People nowadays care only about themselves, right: "Sticky? OMFG, that's far from my interest, lets troll something instead." and so on...

[FROIDBUSTER]

I return to my call for Democracy, that thread where we were consolidating our underage users would have saved valuable time and resources for our pedophile user base. Now they'll get all fustrated having to look through the entire site and turn into violent pedophiles. Disgusting that our mods if given the choice support violent pedophiles over the nonviolent variety.

[HarmonyGoldenChild]

Normally I don't give two craps ..especially about closed threads....but that "friendly reminder to follow the rules" thread...that's one closed topic I'd like to comment on because I don't see the point in reminding people to follow the rules when the alot of the staff enforce the rules only when they want to , not when they need to.

I mean......it wouldnt be the end of the world if they didnt..but if it happened I'd like to ask a few questions regarding the rules.

[Ian the Korean]

When do you feel the rules have not been enforced to your satisfaction? Feel free to either respond here or make a complaints thread if you'd rather.

[KT Samurai]

What Ian said. If you are not happy with us at any time then I urge you to complain. We will listen.

[Rom]

I just skip over closed threads.

[ambragino]

i just skip it.....................

[Punnchy]

If a thread I've started is closed and I'm not sent a message as to why or I don't see the reasoning for it in the closing post, then yes, I would like to see the thread reopened for further discussion until a point that it gets out of hand.

Recently someone posted something they shouldn't have on my sexuality thread, and instead of their reply being edited, the thread was closed a few posts later, that is understandable, but isn't the way i would have handled things.

[Ian the Korean]

If a thread I've started is closed and I'm not sent a message as to why or I don't see the reasoning for it in the closing post, then yes, I would like to see the thread reopened for further discussion until a point that it gets out of hand.

Recently someone posted something they shouldn't have on my sexuality thread, and instead of their reply being edited, the thread was closed a few posts later, that is understandable, but isn't the way i would have handled things.

Usually a discussion can be safely deemed "dead" when the OP has begun posting pics instead of words for content.

[Punnchy]

I'm a pleaser what can I say, someone wants some proof, i'll give it to them, lol.

[Rom]

Actually, I just saw some locked threads I want to post in............the "Neji" threads. Those were hilarious.

[Mr. X & Mr. Y]

Actually, I just saw some locked threads I want to post in............the "Neji" threads. Those were hilarious.
Someone knew it...

..and spared us your posts...

[Kewkehtsu]

When mods call people immature it makes me want to post in locked topics :3

[Ian the Korean]

When mods call people immature it makes me want to post in locked topics :3

Yes, but does it make you want to post in the topic in order to discuss the topic or to get into an argument with said mod? Cause I'm guess you mean the latter, in which case you'd likely end up infracted for flaming of offtopic posts. And we wouldn't want that!

[Kewkehtsu]

Yes, but does it make you want to post in the topic in order to discuss the topic or to get into an argument with said mod? Cause I'm guess you mean the latter, in which case you'd likely end up infracted for flaming of offtopic posts. And we wouldn't want that!
Neither, I just want to post in the thread.
<3 you Ian :3

[Cmpunk]

Being the rebel that I am I'd rather comment on locked threads then comment on unlocked ones.

[Kewkehtsu]

Can I comment in locked threads If I only post how awesome the locking mod is?
Pretty pwease :3

[saramohebmosa]

it depends more on the topic itself !
But almost most of the time I would love to comment on closed threads they are nearly and almost always silly and nice ,

[iko baliko]

When see a locked forum thread what is your first impulse? Do you want to comment on what happened, do you want to try to save a discussion, do you want to get in a playful jab at everyone in the situation?



It would depend on the topic of thread. But I do bumped into some threads that in my opinion can provide a good discussion value that were locked. And in the contrary, I also find threads that are not locked but with are boring or is not really a good topic.

[Rusted-Blade666]

I think a lot of closed threads had a lot of potential but are locked before they could go anywhere. Now if the post is a worthless flame or obvious trolling or some inherent spam then by all means lock it but some threads (Very often by newly starting members) are like rose buds. Give them a chance and see whether they wither or grow before chopping it off. I've had many instances of wanting to comment on a thread only for it to be locked. Sometimes a new member is actually asking a considerable questions that if given a nudge could lead somewhere, yet five minutes after being posted, without any responses at all a mod closes it. Isn't that a bit harsh? I'd say a post which is not proposing some sort of list, or versus thread, or something silly like that, but is actually asking something and offering discussion it should be left for say 24 hours before action is taken. In a day's time you can determine whether it will degrade into a bunch of trolls under the bridge or has become a thread of value to the community.

As for sticky's I guess it depends on what is it is about. Usually they are on vague topics which can cater to most people but I guess some users have only a limited interest in those threads and will only comment on so many of them before leaving them alone. I still visit them from time to time.

Back to closed threads, I must say the idea Froid suggested of a poll was pretty clever. If not a general poll for all users, maybe just vetarans, or at least a poll of the mods themselves would suffice. That way moderators would not be able to be accused of abusing their power and opinion to close threads etc, because it would be a group decision.