The Lord Of The Rings:The Return Of The King

[Insan Kalkani]

December 2001-The Lord Of The Rings-The Fellowship Of The Ring
December 2002-The Lord Of The Rings-The Two Towers

:arrow: Now this December 2003 is the premier of The Lords Of The Rings:The Return Of The King!Will Frodo destroy the ring one :?: Will the human race win the war between humans and orcs :?: Will Sauron get the ring one :?: Well that's some question that it have answer in this movie.

By the way.................Frodo die,you know :!: :?: :roll:

[Malfy]

December 2001-The Lord Of The Rings-The Fellowship Of The Ring
December 2002-The Lord Of The Rings-The Two Towers

:arrow: Now this December 2003 is the premier of The Lords Of The Rings:The Return Of The King!Will Frodo destroy the ring one :?: Will the human race win the war between humans and orcs :?: Will Sauron get the ring one :?: Well that's some question that it have answer in this movie.

By the way.................Frodo die,you know :!: :?: :roll:

Well, if you read the books, or had any common sense, you would have known all of that already. :roll:

Anyway, I'm sure everyone knows already, I mean, who wouldn't, it will be great 8)

[Annyon]

IM A HUGE FAN!!!!!! I cant wait till it comes out! I had a thread like this awhile ago too, but its long forgotten by now...lol

[JonIsDead]

I already got the Return of the King the game, its brilliant and the shots from the movie are absolutely stunning. So I'm positive the movie will deliver just what all the die hard fans want.

[Macht]

Peter Jackson has done the impossible: he's not only made a series of movies better than the books, he's made them one hundred times better.

[Laughing Man]

Frodo doesn't die you f00, Smeagol drops the one ring into the crack of Mt.Doom he also falls into the Mt.Doom killing himself. Smeagol is the real hero of the story I must say. But I've heard that they cut the scene with Saruman if it's true or not.

[Annyon]

Frodo dies...or doesnt die? Man, I really need to finish reading the g0d@mm book....XD

[Insan Kalkani]

Frodo doesn't die you f00, Smeagol drops the one ring into the crack of Mt.Doom he also falls into the Mt.Doom killing himself. Smeagol is the real hero of the story I must say. But I've heard that they cut the scene with Saruman if it's true or not.

Trust me Nazi Raziel.................Frodo dies!!!!Trust me!

[Annyon]

Frodo doesn't die you f00, Smeagol drops the one ring into the crack of Mt.Doom he also falls into the Mt.Doom killing himself. Smeagol is the real hero of the story I must say. But I've heard that they cut the scene with Saruman if it's true or not.

Trust me Nazi Raziel.................Frodo dies!!!!Trust me!

And how would you know? (I dont know either, lol)

[Laughing Man]

bah, frodo doesn't die. At least from the book I've read

[Macht]

I love how you guys just ruined the movie for anyone who hasn't read the book :-p

Doesn't matter to me, though - I've reddit.

[FemmeFatale]

*squeels* I can't wait to see it.

Honestly though, if you haven't read the books, why watch the movies?
I shouldn't say that, but I mean, it bugs me that people don't read the books in general. You should, just for reference. They're the original, ya know.

[Ss3SonGokuo]

I for one am glad I read the books when I smoked weed and had nothing better to do. See weed isnt 100% bad its good for some things... like extrme lazyness to the point of just sitting at home and drawing and reading.

Im looking forward to the movie it will be great and it will be such a breath of fresh air after Matrix Revolutions. I hope the Hobbit is next I am pretty sure they will make it theyd have to be complete retards not to.

[WildStar]

*laughs*

Thanks for that little todbit about the refer Aaron. :p

Im very much looking forward to the movie. And darn all of you for ruining it for those who havent read the books. Sheesh....

Anyways, Im getting the extended version of the Two Towers soon. 40 plus minutes of LOTR goodness. ^^ *Already has the first extended vesrion*

[Zylef]

Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King is gonna kick ass. SO far, unlike the gay Matrix, they have been awesome. So im expecting a great movie.

[FemmeFatale]

*laughs*

Thanks for that little todbit about the refer Aaron. :p

Im very much looking forward to the movie. And darn all of you for ruining it for those who havent read the books. Sheesh....

Anyways, Im getting the extended version of the Two Towers soon. 40 plus minutes of LOTR goodness. ^^ *Already has the first extended vesrion*

I have the first extended version too, its good, so I can only imagen how the Two Towers one with be. Is it coming out soon? I want it. 8O

[Anonymous1]

doesn't frodo loose his finger aswell

[NS]

Ahh the third movie... Should be very good... But Id also like to ask everyone this... Has anyone actually read the books? I mean before actually seeing the movies? I have and if you havent I suggest reading the books first... Your missing out on a lot.

[Laughing Man]

doesn't frodo loose his finger aswell

yeah, Frodo does lose his finger by smeagol. But I have no idea what the hell that guy talking about Frodo dieing in the movie...

[IcareAlot]

Yes The Hobbit will be awesome. No epic battles but it should be shorter than 3 hours and more entertaining with the dwarfs. Dwarfs are so cool. I've been looking forward to LOTR 3 all year. I've heard Chistpher Lee (Sauron) will have most of he's scenes cut to make the film shorter. Seeing as its probably gonna clock in about 3 hrs an extra 7 mins really isn't thatmuch. Anyway I think its wrong and will making my opinion known. Kind of.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_838419.html

[Anime Boy]

This movies gonna be sweet

[Jinto Lin]

Frodo doesn't die you f00, Smeagol drops the one ring into the crack of Mt.Doom he also falls into the Mt.Doom killing himself. Smeagol is the real hero of the story I must say. But I've heard that they cut the scene with Saruman if it's true or not.

Trust me Nazi Raziel.................Frodo dies!!!!Trust me!


He didn't die in the book..... Ill put what happend in white text...

He goes across the sea with the elves

[Frozen Shade]

What the hell are you talking about? Frodo doesn't die, Gollum/Smeagol does. :?

And even if by some very stupid miracle he did, well...it wouldn't happen. Peter Jackson is a smart man. He wouldn't forsake his life like that. :roll:

Smeagol IS the true Hero of the story. I'll always stand by that. I don't think there's ever been such a deep, complex, moving character in Fantasy history.

Anyway, I'm going to do what I did for the last two: I'm parking my ass outside the theatre about 15 hours before the movie is released and I'm going to stand there, by God, and no one is getting into that building before me. :wink:

Mmmm...Aragorn in all his glory. Mmmm.

[Raz]

OMG liek clone thread!!!

Anyway, I'm going to see it midnight opening night, then again... and again... and again... and again until it closes.

[Jada]

Uh, yeah, if Frodo dies in the movie, mass mayhem will ensue, there will be a second revolution with lots of blood, and a world war 3 with LOTR fans vs the media.

It won't happen. I agree about Smeagol, though....don't you think the actor who played him should have gotten an award or something? He plays Smeagol sooooo well....not to mention all the physical obstacles he had to go through. I remember seeing in the extended version, the commentary where they show him doing take after take in an ice-cold river... 8O With nothing but a jump suit and those sensor thingies, too.

Next they need to make the elves' history - something like the Silmarrilion, but not exactly. I think that would make an excellent movie ^3^

Anyway, I hope the movie theatres near us will do the 7hr opening showing the two movies...and then the third. My goodness, 10 hours of LOTR. 8O I guess my dedication to LOTR will be tested that night...^^

[Frozen Shade]

Uh, yeah, if Frodo dies in the movie, mass mayhem will ensue, there will be a second revolution with lots of blood, and a world war 3 with LOTR fans vs the media.

It won't happen. I agree about Smeagol, though....don't you think the actor who played him should have gotten an award or something? He plays Smeagol sooooo well....not to mention all the physical obstacles he had to go through. I remember seeing in the extended version, the commentary where they show him doing take after take in an ice-cold river... 8O With nothing but a jump suit and those sensor thingies, too.

Next they need to make the elves' history - something like the Silmarrilion, but not exactly. I think that would make an excellent movie ^3^

Anyway, I hope the movie theatres near us will do the 7hr opening showing the two movies...and then the third. My goodness, 10 hours of LOTR.
8O I guess my dedication to LOTR will be tested that night...^^



Yeah, poor Andy. :lol: The things that guy had to go through to play Gollum was insane, and he won't even been seen on screen after all the trouble he's gone through. Must make him feel kind of ripped off.

[Annyon]

Uh, yeah, if Frodo dies in the movie, mass mayhem will ensue, there will be a second revolution with lots of blood, and a world war 3 with LOTR fans vs the media.

It won't happen. I agree about Smeagol, though....don't you think the actor who played him should have gotten an award or something? He plays Smeagol sooooo well....not to mention all the physical obstacles he had to go through. I remember seeing in the extended version, the commentary where they show him doing take after take in an ice-cold river... 8O With nothing but a jump suit and those sensor thingies, too.

Next they need to make the elves' history - something like the Silmarrilion, but not exactly. I think that would make an excellent movie ^3^

Anyway, I hope the movie theatres near us will do the 7hr opening showing the two movies...and then the third. My goodness, 10 hours of LOTR.
8O I guess my dedication to LOTR will be tested that night...^^



Yeah, poor Andy. :lol: The things that guy had to go through to play Gollum was insane, and he won't even been seen on screen after all the trouble he's gone through. Must make him feel kind of ripped off.

lol....yeah.....he got paid though. If i was him I'd sue them...noez, just joking...XD

hes pretty damn good doing smeagol's voice though

[Laughing Man]

the guy is a complete grade A freakazoid with that talents.

[Insan Kalkani]

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Frodo live
-Eowyn defeat the Nazgul king
-Aragorn become a king
-Sam married with Rosy
-Etc.....................!

:!:

[goji2099]

Here is my review.


Well, after waiting a year just to see the end of the Two Towers, I came in for the first showing in the chicago area. Of course, it started with the telling of how Smeagol Got the ring. Unfortunately, the sympathy we once had for poor smeagol is gone. How is it he has more self control AFTER he becomes the ring obsessed looney gollum? Gollum is much more respectable than the murderous smeagol. He sees it once and he kills his cousin Deagol. Wow. There was a huge moral conflict about killing frodo...

Well, an hour into the end of the two towers we begin to think.... Why the hell do they build up to a giant spider killed so anticlimatically? Well, anyway, the actually return of the king starts and Eowyn kills the Nazguhl King in a fashion that makes you think: HOw come Aragorn couldn't kill it in the first one?

Now, let me end with here as not to spoil the film. But the film seems to forget about Gimli and Legolas, Gimli appearing occasionally as cheap comic relief. Also some cheap comic relief were "tough guy one-liners" expected in Army of Darkness, or Peter Jackson's earlier 'movie' Dead Alive. I was expecting Gandalf to Decapitate an orc, and Explain that he was "Kicking ass for the Lord!"

Funny it is, though, that a film that is to include the end of the Two Towers, and the entire return of the king seems to forget about Saruman. Save it for the DVD, it wil take too much time. Excuse me, but it is three and a half hours long. Five minutes near the end really wouldn't hurt.

Ah yes, in return of the King Samwise Gamgee's importance was stressed. Or so it appeared. We are really supposed to love him after beating the hell out of the obviously troubled smeagol. Perhaps that is why smeagol is more of a murderer. So you don't mind sam's abuse because Smeagol is a dipshit.

Interesting thing about this film though, despite all these complaints (and many more that I will not say because I fear spoilers) this was an excellant film. Stays fairly true to the book (many faults of the movie are directly link to the obvious attempt to keep true Tolkein fans happy, but keeping it interesting to people who just want to see a movie. The probably alienated alot of both) despite so many obvious differances. This is stil very good, as we see the end of Frodo's Journey and the end of the two towers (a bit late, I think). Without too many overdone battle Sequences (they were UNDERDONE. Some last stand of Gondor.....) this movie really makes you think: Why do they fear an impossible battle when they just won two impossible battles?

Sorry, it was a good film. However, like many classics it leaves alot to nitpick about, plus some excess stupidity. Like Star Wars, Return of the Jedi. Even with my complaints, I find it superior to Fellowship of the Ring, but not Half of the Two Towers seen last year.

*** 1/2 out of ****

[Kyuu]

Well, one of these threads should remain open.

http://www.anime-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=25874


Here is my question:

Why couldn't they just simply fly the ring over to Mt. Doom?

[goji2099]

Wow..... That is true. And those eagles would have done it....

[Annyon]

Wow..... That is true. And those eagles would have done it....

Tolkien wrote the book and he wanted excitement in it, not just a 40 page novel. I think it would be kinda hard for the Eagles to go to Mt. Doom anyways because since it's so evil they have all these nazgul dragon riders with the big dragon thingys that could kill a pack of wargs. Anyways, I guess thats why they can't simply just fly over Mt. Doom. It wouldnt be as much exciting and it would be very short and errr.... plain..

[skunkworks]

I noticed that the Lieutenant of Barad-Dur, The Mouth of Sauron, wasn't in it...hmm.

[WildStar]

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Originally posted by COAvsFanMatt2005 So many mistakes made in that movie:

- Pippen was telling Gandalf they were burning Eldimor (or whatever his name was), and he said "They're gonna burn Boromir "

- When Gandalf and Pippen were talking before the Orcs broke through one of the doors, Gandalf's sword changed from a fake looking one, to a black bladed one, to a silver bladed one, to a blue tinted bladed one, and back to a silver bladed one (I laughed my ass off during that whole scene, just watching Gandalf's sword change)

- At the end when Gandalf is saying goodbye to Sam, Pippen, and Merry, they don't have his eyebrow makeup on, thus his eyebrows were black instead of white
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I didnt notice any of those mistakes. I'll watch more carefully the next time I see that movie. And yes, there will be a next time. Me and my freinds always go in waves to movies like this. One week it'll be several that go and of course Im going along then the next the others go and yes that includes me. bwaahahahahahaha.

I really did enjoy this movie. Its the culmination of great directing, acting and one of the best books ever written. Had they added every single thing to this movie it could easily have been much longer. The end was done with nicely, certainly long for those who arent familiar with the book but it covered all that needed to be covered.

The one thing they didnt cover in this was Sarumon (typo). They just mentioned him and didnt show him at all. Im sure the dvd will explain it better. (Cant wait for the dvd already).

This movie was the best of the year. It had better win every category its in.

[Kyuu]

If you haven't seen the movie...

SPOILER! :roll:

I have a problem with the ending. Now, I have not read any of the books, nor do I really intend to -- or maybe someday when I'm old and gray.

Ending Problems:

1. It's too long. Get it over with already!

2. Everything is happy! It shows that the best way to get a Happy ending is to sacrifice the extras. If you ask me, I would have Frodo die with the ring; it'd go along with the tragic flaw of Frodo allowing himself to be consumed by the ring.

3. Tried to close loose ends as quick as possible (even though I said it was too long).

4. The last battle at the Black Gate is not as glamorous as the battle at Gondor. It got to the point of -- oh, whoopty doo da... :roll:

5. Smeagol should have been dead when Sam struck him. With Smeagol going after the ring within Mt. Doom itself, it distracted audience from the true conflict: Frodo vs. the Ring.

6. Who called the Eagles? If it was Gandalf, then why didn't they show him doing it?

7. Sauron's role was reduced to that of a lighthouse. How lame... :roll:

8. Didn't Sauron see the ring?! The frikkin' light from his eye shone on it; and no, it wasn't too far. :roll:

9. The army moved from Gondor to the Black Gate awefully fast!

Blah, I have more rants... but oh well... I'll stop here.


This movie was the best of the year. It had better win every category its in.

I have to admit, it gave me an emo. trip; but I'll disagree that it was the best one for the year. But then again, I haven't seen many during the year... so, out of all that I have seen this year; alright, I'll agree. :D

[symph lizard]

Here is my question:

Why couldn't they just simply fly the ring over to Mt. Doom?

Dude, he was the freakin' Lord of the Nazgul and whatnot. He had to have, like, anti-eagle missles, or like flying eagle-eating weasels, or something.

It's like Star Wars: his defenses were set up for the obvious attack, not the foolish idiot approach. They could never be so dumb... muahahahahaaa!

...ummmmmmerp?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

[goji2099]

Wow..... That is true. And those eagles would have done it....

Tolkien wrote the book and he wanted excitement in it, not just a 40 page novel. I think it would be kinda hard for the Eagles to go to Mt. Doom anyways because since it's so evil they have all these nazgul dragon riders with the big dragon thingys that could kill a pack of wargs. Anyways, I guess thats why they can't simply just fly over Mt. Doom. It wouldnt be as much exciting and it would be very short and errr.... plain..

Yes, however in the film they never seemed to be an issue and the Nazgul were weak as hell and could be knocked out by a single arrow.

Come on, at least I am not making a serious complaint. More a joyful complaint, joking. Sort of like a good movie where you still see plains on strings.


One problem I had, and I may be nitpicking, is the fact that they all charged to the elaphaunts with no strategy whatsoever, and where all trampled to death. Oh, that big mother has got tusks on the ground. Lets run into them and get impaled!

Fortunately, they did wise up and figure out what they were doing.

[aiglee]

... the actually return of the king starts and Eowyn kills the Nazguhl King in a fashion that makes you think: HOw come Aragorn couldn't kill it in the first one?....


They said in the movie 2 or 3 times that no man can kill that Nazguhl, and in case you didn't hear that at the begining Eowyn repeats it again when she is going to kill him/it. The Nazguhl says "no man can kill me" (or something like that) and then she says "I'm not a man, I'm a woman" taking off her helmet. Aragorn can't kill the Nazguhl because he is a man, as simple as that!!.



Pippen was telling Gandalf they were burning Eldimor (or whatever his name was), and he said "They're gonna burn Boromir "

He said they were burning FARAMIR, no Boromir, there is no mistake there... I don't know about the others you said.


4. The last battle at the Black Gate is not as glamorous as the battle at Gondor. It got to the point of -- oh, whoopty doo da...

5. Smeagol should have been dead when Sam struck him. With Smeagol going after the ring within Mt. Doom itself, it distracted audience from the true conflict: Frodo vs. the Ring.

6. Who called the Eagles? If it was Gandalf, then why didn't they show him doing it?

9. The army moved from Gondor to the Black Gate awefully fast!


4. That battle was just a distraction, not a REAL battle, so it doesn't need to be so "glamorous"

5. It wasn't just about Frodo vs. the Ring, it was also about Smeagol vs. The Ring, he was the one that had it before and for much longer.

6. It doesn't matter who called the eagles, is not important, the war was over so they could go to mt. doom if they wanted.

9. Gondor is right next to Mordor, is very close so they can get there very very fast.

[goji2099]

That is too corny of a solution. I'm sorry. Besides, Merry had a huge part in that final blow. Is he a hermaphrodite or something? So that is not really much of an explanation.

Not like it was a bad movie. In fact, it was excellant.

[Kyuu]

Here is my question:

Why couldn't they just simply fly the ring over to Mt. Doom?

Dude, he was the freakin' Lord of the Nazgul and whatnot. He had to have, like, anti-eagle missles, or like flying eagle-eating weasels, or something.

It's like Star Wars: his defenses were set up for the obvious attack, not the foolish idiot approach. They could never be so dumb... muahahahahaaa!

...ummmmmmerp?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

Yea? But we saw NONE of that at the Black Gate.

A little dinky force as that managed to LIVE when Sauron's army encircled them.


9. Gondor is right next to Mordor, is very close so they can get there very very fast.

Well, we have ourselves some very small ass countries... 8O

[Frozen Shade]

In the spirit of LOTR, I made this, because I am so fabulously witty and hilarious:

http://e.domaindlx.com/Jaisai/New%20Optimus%20Flash/SamFrodoRing%20copy.jpg

[Kyuu]

Here is my question:

Why couldn't they just simply fly the ring over to Mt. Doom?

Dude, he was the freakin' Lord of the Nazgul and whatnot. He had to have, like, anti-eagle missles, or like flying eagle-eating weasels, or something.

It's like Star Wars: his defenses were set up for the obvious attack, not the foolish idiot approach. They could never be so dumb... muahahahahaaa!

...ummmmmmerp?

hmmmmmmmmmmmm...................

Like what Goji said, the Nazgul were not a threat -- despite their claim to be "unkillable". They were the only things capable of engaging those eagles -- and the eagles PWNED them.

[E. Junkie]

Ending Problems:

1. It's too long. Get it over with already!

2. Everything is happy! It shows that the best way to get a Happy ending is to sacrifice the extras. If you ask me, I would have Frodo die with the ring; it'd go along with the tragic flaw of Frodo allowing himself to be consumed by the ring.

3. Tried to close loose ends as quick as possible (even though I said it was too long).

All three of these can be answered with that this is the way it happened in the book. Would you rather have a stupid Hollywood ending that has no similarties to the ending of the book, like what they did with Interview With a Vampire? Or an accurate ending?

[goji2099]

Like what Goji said, the Nazgul were not a threat -- despite their claim to be "unkillable". They were the only things capable of engaging those eagles -- and the eagles PWNED them.


Yes. However, I LIKED the movie.

[Laughing Man]

without the Treant's help, the war was over and Mordor/Harad would have won the Battle of Minas Tirinth.

[Laughing Man]

You see, the movie was awesome but there were some points which made this movie sucks.

#1: The Easterlings were completely out of action during siege of Minas Tirinth

#2: There was no damn plot with Saruman or wtf happened to him, the plot of him was completely gone

#3: Where the hell was Gothmog?

#4: The plot said there was tons of Haradrim warriors coming to aid for Mordor army during Minas Tirinth siege, but all they sent was some few Oliphaunts (did they changed the plot script?)

#5: The Treants just basically owned the whole battle field

#6: The Mouth of Sauron was also out of action

[SkylineGTR]

6. Who called the Eagles? If it was Gandalf, then why didn't they show him doing it?

well you see gandolf with the moth in front of him, which he sends to get the eagle in the first one :P

[+he misunderstood]

i havent watched the movie yet but my sister did; she says it was really good and trust me i believe IT IS true..coz she wouldnt stop talking about it yesterday and it was torture!!! so yeah were going to watch it on tuesday though :D :D :D and i'm really excited!!!

[Kyuu]

Ending Problems:

1. It's too long. Get it over with already!

2. Everything is happy! It shows that the best way to get a Happy ending is to sacrifice the extras. If you ask me, I would have Frodo die with the ring; it'd go along with the tragic flaw of Frodo allowing himself to be consumed by the ring.

3. Tried to close loose ends as quick as possible (even though I said it was too long).

All three of these can be answered with that this is the way it happened in the book. Would you rather have a stupid Hollywood ending that has no similarties to the ending of the book, like what they did with Interview With a Vampire? Or an accurate ending?

Being someone who has not read the books -- nor plan to within 5 years or so, just to forget the effects of the movie -- a movie format is 95% completely different (note the oxymoron :P) from a book format. Stories in books are far too elaborate to be filled into a movie -- not even a long trilogy such as this one.

To allow things to make a little more sense, I would welcome some editing of the story.

After all, the X-Men movies are turning out pretty good so far despite diverting far away from the comic or any previous animated versions. After all, where's Gambit? :P

Anyways, back to LOTR, there are just too many wrong things with the movies that I can point out. Some of which were pointed out by Schutzstaffel.

Want me to get into Two Towers? I didn't see this movie till about noon on the 16th -- which was 12 hours away from Lord of the Kings opening at midnight.

[Ms. Eatty]

the movie was good....realllllllll good. Mmmmmmmmmm

[Robin Sena]

I saw it yesterday with in a surprisingly almost empty theater and I was impressed with it, but I felt it was rushed, especially the climb through the mountains in Mordor and Frodo in Shelob's lair. That was a big chunk in the book. Also, like someone else said, the battles, while at first it seemed the orcs outnumbered the men greatly, they were easily beat. Being someone who read the books a few years ago and was exicted about the movies, I'm not ecstatic about the results, but it's not like I could have done any better. Peter Jackson royally screwed up The Two Towers, (people who've read the books know what I'm talking about) but I'm glad he stayed as close to the book as he could for the final film.

[beautiful nightmare]

OMG! THE MOVIE REALLY ROCKS! it was just so cool.i was frozen in my seat the whole time. it was just so awesomely cool.

[Jada]

Smeagol should have been dead when Sam struck him. With Smeagol going after the ring within Mt. Doom itself, it distracted audience from the true conflict: Frodo vs. the Ring.

6. Who called the Eagles? If it was Gandalf, then why didn't they show him doing it?

Mmm...well, for Mount Doom, that's just how the book went, so I don't think Jackson had much leniency with what he could do with that. And for the Eagles, in the book, there's another wizard, something The Brown, who communicates with animals. But yeah, since that's never mentioned in the movie, I guess Jackson replaced that with just the moth. (Thanks for pointing that out, Armageddon).

There were small nitpicky things that were left out of the movie - how Faramir and Eowyn marry, for instance, binding Rohan and Gondor together...hmmm, maybe not so small. But I guess they were running out of time. And I think they focused a tad too long on Legolas with his amazing oliphaunt slaughter scene (but I guess I'm the only girl who actually was annoyed by his attention...). What else? Yeah, the Mouth of Sauron was supposed to come out with Frodo's mithril suit and everything to show Gandalf and co, wasn't he? And my last minirant, everyone becomes so excited when the eagles come, but they never ever had any significance to any of the characters before, besides Gandalf. And yet they're all cheering, "the eagles are here! The eagles are here!" as if they're some kind of savior. It just cheapens the moment, I think...

But why am I complaining? I loved the movie! The music was great (although my favorite is actually the Two Towers soundtrack). And I absolutely loved Shelob. They created her PERFECTLY. Especially with the bird's eye view shot of her creeping out of the rocks above Frodo's head. Favorite scene right there. And I really liked how they explained Gollum's history. Disgusting, but pretty true to the book.

Mmmm, so yeah, favorite movie of all time, and I do hope it gains some recognition at the Oscars. I want to see it again, if I have the chance.

[Timmy]

*spoilers*

When i left the cinema after seeing the Return of the King, i left with great satisfaction. I think this is the best one of the three.

Here's why:

1. The Battle for Minas Tirith.
Even though i thought that after Matrix: Revolutions battles couldnt get much better, i completely changed my mind. This has got to be the greatest epic battle that has ever been put in a movie. The incredible cinematograpy has made this battle completely chaotic yet synoptic. The immense destruction made it even greater. The army of the dead was a great addition too, i thought. And i don't care if those elephaunts looked a bit like walkers from Star Wars, i was still a great scene when legolas singlehandedly killed one of them (even though i might have looked like Luke Skywalker).

2. The ending battle (and destuction of Mordor)
When i sat in the cinema and this scene was playing, people next to me immediatly started *****ing about how it wasn't like in the book. It really doesn't matter to me whether or not that it true. The destruction of Barud-dur was spectacular. And because i didnt read the book (yet) i was surprised to see the Eagles drop by.

I was really touched by the ending and the way it was shown. Frodo and Gandalf leaving Middle-Earth was a great scene.

Peter Jackson has done a great, no, a fantastic job on these movies. It's a pity there won't be another LOTR to look forward to, but there is a brilliant movie-trilogy behind us that i'm glad i could witness.

[Cherushi]

ahh lotr goodness. The third one was great and Peter Jackson did a great job. I'm glad it's already grabbing awards.

Once it comes out on DVD, I'm gonna invite some friends over and force them to watch all three in a row w/ me lol. That should be VERY interesting...

As for those who've read the books... I have a question for you. People who haven't won't know what I'm talking about.

Do you think they should have included the Scouring of the Shire? After the whole Mt. Doom part, I realized that they weren't gonna have it. They were just going to go back to the Shire and everything would be fine.

[Laughing Man]

Peter Jackson should have put the scene which the Shire getting overun by the orcs. The movie already mensioned that the west including Lorien, Rivendell was raided by the corsair ships but shire was completely untouched.

[Big The Cat Number 4]

I'm going to see it the day after Christmas. Family tradition. I cannot wait. :)

[Timmy]

*spoiler*



Do you think they should have included the Scouring of the Shire? After the whole Mt. Doom part, I realized that they weren't gonna have it. They were just going to go back to the Shire and everything would be fine.

Are you referring to the part where Saruman creates a rebellion on a spot in the Shire? And Grima kills him afterwards? If so, neither Jackson nor New Line had any news on that.. Jackson only said that the Gandalf meets Saruman scene would be added to the Extended Version.

[shanghai_scratch_cat]

i saw it and it was goooooooooooood. iloved it but i didnt think it was as good as the fellowship of the ring. thats the best one. the 3rd movie was changed too much from the book.

[Kyuu]

Mmm...well, for Mount Doom, that's just how the book went, so I don't think Jackson had much leniency with what he could do with that. And for the Eagles, in the book, there's another wizard, something The Brown, who communicates with animals. But yeah, since that's never mentioned in the movie, I guess Jackson replaced that with just the moth. (Thanks for pointing that out, Armageddon).

But that's the thing... they couldn't include everything from the book into the movie. If it seems that the movie doesn't make sense, then why not cut it?

[Laughing Man]

Radagast the Brown, Gandalf's brother.

[samurai]

SPOILERS



My three main gripes with the film were: Eowyn kills the loosely built-up immortal "King of the Nazguls", the phantoms along with how they come and kill everything within a few minutes, and Pippen, Eowyn, and Frodo live...

I thought the movie was decent, but I doubt I'd be able to sit through it again to watch less than 30 minutes of the really good/exciting parts and three hours of mediocre to suckiness parts.

For anyone saying "but that's how it is in the book!!!!!!!!!" I have this to say to them, "just because it's written in the book doesn't mean it's good," since everyone seems to be defending it by saying the above statement.

[Jada]

Yeah, but the small scene with Saruman is still back in Isengard, not in the shire.


For anyone saying "but that's how it is in the book!!!!!!!!!" I have this to say to them, "just because it's written in the book doesn't mean it's good," since everyone seems to be defending it by saying the above statement.

This is a good point, and I mostly agree. As far as pleasing both the fanatics and the movie-only watchers, I think Jackson did an amazing job, though. After all, no one's going to be 100% happy with the movie.

Here's another thing I was thinking about: Pride and Prejudice is one book, and I believe shorter than LOTR. Yet my friend, who is obsessed with it, has the 6-hour movie. If that book could be 6 hours long, perhaps LOTR could have, in thoery, been even longer. That way Jackson could stay truer to the book - for the zealots, anyway. Wonder if that would ever happen....

Oh, last thing. It seems a popular rumor that Frodo dies. Both in the movie and in the book. Anyone know how this started? I've already had to convince several people that Frodo doesn't die at all. :? strange...

[Laughing Man]

because those little bastards are dumbasses and I know who exactly started this rumor in this forum.

[goji2099]

I remember that damn rumor. I was thinking that perhaps it was actually started from some people who worked on the film. Because seeing the ring destroyed the RIGHT way was good enough for me.


However, the Gandalf Sarumon Battle would have sucked. But they need the scouring of the Shire! It could have been a five minute scene, nothing too major. The Minas Tirith Battle sucked completely without the awe or splendor of Helms deep. The King Nazguhl had a very Anticlimatic death at the hands of Merry and Eowyn, who kill him too damned easily. Dialogue was Corny.

I loved the book. ANd I loved the movie. And I agree that somethings are best forgotten for the film. If you hated the Frodo NOT DYING, then you wouldn't have liked the Fellowship with the Singing woodsman Tom Bombadil, a great character in the novel who wouldn't go well in a film.


Look, the ending was good. If anything, the should have made the destruction of the ring sequence a bit shorter without the slomotion and smeagal screaming. Not looking like Terminator 2 might have helped.

It was a good movie. Not as great as the two towers, but is an excallant film when the trilogy is viewed as it should be: ONE EPIC.

[Jinto Lin]

Yah it left off what happened to Faramir after they rescued him from his father. And Eowyn was hurt much worse than a sore arm.

[Laughing Man]

Yah it left off what happened to Faramir after they rescued him from his father. And Eowyn was hurt much worse than a sore arm.

uhh.. faramir got rescured by pippin and that was it. He got healed after the battle of Minas Tirinth and Eowyn's arm also healed after the battle.

[skunkworks]

Faramir and Eowyn were both tended to in the House of Healing, which is where they meet. They eventually get married too.

[goji2099]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't a relationship between Farimar and Eowyn established in the two towers (book). Its been a while so i am not sure.

Anyway, Farimar was too little of a part in Return of the King.

[JoshMac]

As for me....Im more interested in getting the game than acually watching the movie. :lol:

[skunkworks]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't a relationship between Farimar and Eowyn established in the two towers (book). Its been a while so i am not sure.

Honestly, I don't even remember, hehe. You're probably right. I haven't read the book in a while. http://www.gamepaused.com/forum/images/smiles/raise.gif

[samurai]

Anyway, Farimar was too little of a part in Return of the King.Screw that, look at what happened to Gimly, Legolas, and Eomer in The Two Towers. Their relationships are non-existant in the movies, which is a shame. Also, Gimly and Legolas rarely appeared on-screen in RotK, that's worse than Faramir having a little part.

[Jada]

Yes, like skunkworks said, Faramir and Eowyn first establish their relationship in the House of Healing. Eowyn's still smitten with Aragorn in the Two Towers to pay attention to anyone else. I don't think they meet in the second book/movie at least. It's really too bad the two don't get more screen time - I though that part of the book was sweet ^_^;. After all, that couple and Aragorn/Arwen are really the only two romances in the trilogy (unless I'm forgetting any...?) Anyway, I agree about Faramir, Legolas, Gimli, Eomer - all the characters that are pushed out of the spotlight. Especially Gimli and Legolas, being reduced to nothing but comic relief. Wasn't it in the third book that they agree to go to the caves and into Fangorn forest together, and Legolas hears the seagulls and takes up sailing too? Ah, well, Jackson probably thought it wasn't plotworthy anyway...after all, he still had the end of the two towers to make up for. ^_^ Despite my many complaints, I really did love the movie, and I will definitely be rewatching the ROTK at least once more over winter break.

[ALLO MAH NAME IS STEVE]

well i saw return of the king on christmas day and you know i can't understand why anyone in their right mind would ever think of comparing the lotr trilogy to the matrix trilogy.

o.o

this movie while the ending was long easily kicks matrix revolutions butt without even breaking a sweat.

I saw a couple of movies this year and this movie is the best one I have seen.

Having not read the books i can't judge the literary accuracy but you know what i don't care.

Because as a movie it stands pretty dang well on it's own.

I don't see much to gripe about really, cause I mean as a whole this trilogy has easily become one in a rare place of good trilogies.

The ones that you actually care about not . . . ones that you will do everthing in your power to avoid . . . I AM LOOKING AT YOU SPY KIDS!



well anyway that's my two cents about the movie.

I am not gonna spoil anything cause a bunch have already . . if you haven't seen the dang movie

GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND GO SEE IT!

[Zylef]

I saw the movie last Saturday. Overall it was very good. The one and only thing that i did not like about it was the boring stretched ending. That is, after the ring is disposed of.

[Big The Cat Number 4]

LOL

Yeah, the whole theatre clapped like 7 times before it ended.. :lol:

I loved it. I thought it had the most suspense, best fighting (of course), and coolest effects. I liked the ghost bunch.. :twisted:

And yes, LOTR pwns the Matrix.

[DarkDiablo113]

this is the best movie i will ever see in my life of trilogies,it had good battle scenes and everything!