Should marijuana be legal?

[Le Faye]

Your chance to be heard. Ill read.

[Gundam08]

One side of me says no because it'll get out of control otherwise. But the other side of me says yes it should be legal because people should be free to do what they want to themselves, even if that means completely wasting their time getting high.

[Gremstein]

i always wonder about the united states government..
they spend something like 15 billion dollars a year trying to combat marijuana.... when instead they could be making that 15 billion marketing it to the people.
shows how stupid the government really is

[Kyuu]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell.

[Ss3SonGokuo]

Yes it should. The only reasons it is not legal is because A its population control and B Rich white people like to ***** about things that poor people usualy do more often and thats just one of them. Also when the balad came out to wether or not it should be legalized mrijuana had its scientific name on the ballad and noone knew wtf it was so they voted no on the pot.

If te government sold weed and put a huge tax on it less people would do it and they would make more money its a win win situation. I dont understand how we can liv in a "free land" when we cant even choose what we do to our bodies. If I wanted to ruin my body with pot and speed and acid I should be aloud to do so so long as I am not hurting anyone else. Of course America is none to be a giant hypachrite of a country....

War on drugs is a bunch of bull **** they should use its real name the war on the lower class. If a black man from the projects gets caught with pot its like 6 months in jail if a rich white person does its a slap on the wrist maybe a day in jail and confiscation of their weed. Governments ****ed up and this is just more the proof. I do think weed should definately be legalized though.

[Lament]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell .

I'll have to agree with Kyuu on that one.

[H3 who h45 no n4m3]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell .

I'll have to agree with Kyuu on that one.

same here, that way there will be a lot less of an epidemic of it. However i wouldnt want to be driving down the highway and having the person driving along side me smoking a doopy while he or she is driving. It is almost as bad if not worse than haveing someone drinking alcohol while driving.

heck a peson that is smoking up a tree while driving would claim that they saw a smurf jump acroos the croad, swerve to avoid it, and cause an accident
[smurfs? are they related to smoking trees or acid? i forget.]

other than the abouve stated it wouldn't hurt the economy if it was legalized.

[Le Faye]

I once read marijuana did not cause hallucinations.

[JinKaze]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell .

I'll have to agree with Kyuu on that one.
I second that one. As long as there aren't any rapes or nothin cuz ppl got high on marijuana and went temporarily insane. Also, there would be ppl trying to force their children to take marijuana as well.

[Mystic]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell .

I'll have to agree with Kyuu on that one.

i agree too, i just did one of my papers on the subject and the DEA said that marijuana is the largest cash crop in the US with an estimated 25 billion dollars in sells versus our largest cash crop of maize which is at around 19billion...

[....]

of course i think it should cause i smoke it everyday but even though i do
i think there would be a whole lot more accidents my friend was killed in a car accident involving pot. so really i dont know.

[Aya-kun]

of course i think it should cause i smoke it everyday but even though i do
i think there would be a whole lot more accidents my friend was killed in a car accident involving pot. so really i dont know.

There WOULD be a whole lot more accidents.
Maybe if America goes the way of Canada and opens those places where you buy it and smoke it in the shop or somethin. *shrugs*

[crn_hzl]

Taxing it's not gonna help. Money is easy to get ahold of these days, and any person ould sneak a few extra bucks into their wallet. Me? I save up my lunch money to buy PC parts and anime[i can't get a job yet, blah]. I can get around 30+ bucks really easily.

[Macht]

I don't think alcohol, cigarettes, or marijuana should be legal. They're all detrimental to one's health and can potentially hurt people who aren't involved.

But I think marijuana is the least harmful of the three when used to that extent. I also think it's a shame that alcohol, which can be used as a fine drink, can be so abused.

So, in short, due to the follies of human nature, I say outlaw all three.

[Daeowan]

Meh. Legalize them all and let the people who need them sort it out. If you
need a hit of any narcotic or foreign substance for anything beyond medicinal
purposes, you're a sad human being. They're all bad for you. If we legalize
it and it's okay for you to abuse it, you'll either find out why we've been
trying to prevent our children from using them the hard way, or you'll stay
blissfully unaware of how these thing ruin your life.

I always thought it was funny how two of the biggest killers of them all are
legal (to a certain extent) and still abused without regard. I speak of course
of alcohol and cigarettes.

Have fun killing your body.

[....]

I don't think alcohol, cigarettes, or marijuana should be legal. They're all detrimental to one's health and can potentially hurt people who aren't involved.

But I think marijuana is the least harmful of the three when used to that extent. I also think it's a shame that alcohol, which can be used as a fine drink, can be so abused.

So, in short, due to the follies of human nature, I say outlaw all three.


dude i drink and smoke big deal :wink:

[xerith]

dude i drink and smoke big deal :wink:

Good for you. Very proud of ya.

On another note,

Yes. Marijuana should be legalized. Because, well, as afore mentioned, Americans, built on "freedom" should be free to do what they want. Even if that means messing themselves up and killing all their children after raping their neighbor's daughter. I mean, hey, that's what freedom is, right?

But that's another subject. If the government wants to keep it within reason, they should come up with a limit system. You know, keep tabs on someone's supply per week or whatever. So that it doesn't get out of hand.

[Kyuu]

Marijuana should be legal... BUT it should be taxed beyond hell .

I'll have to agree with Kyuu on that one.
I second that one. As long as there aren't any rapes or nothin cuz ppl got high on marijuana and went temporarily insane. Also, there would be ppl trying to force their children to take marijuana as well.

That happens with alcohol and other legal drugs.

By the way, alcohol IS a drug. Same with smoking. Remember that.

[Ss3SonGokuo]

Yes. Marijuana should be legalized. Because, well, as afore mentioned, Americans, built on "freedom" should be free to do what they want. Even if that means messing themselves up and killing all their children after raping their neighbor's daughter. I mean, hey, that's what freedom is, right?.

ahhh man I dont think anyones gonna get high and kill their children and rape their neigbors daughter dude. People get stoned and eat alot of food and talk **** on shows on the tv. I think your thinking of an insain drunk man who has serious problems...... even then.

[IcareAlot]

There are far more alcohol and cigarette related deaths than marijuana. But ya know, despite me having the occasional puff (OK sometimes very occasional puff) I have to say it should be a controlled substance. Marijuana is a gateway drug. Now if it was legal kids could easily get hold of it (think how many underage smokers you see) and if they start at that age they could very easily move onto the more lethal harder stuff.

But I do think the drug should be taken out of the hands of drug dealers. Here in England its been down graded to class C, which means if the cops see you toking they just take your gear of you and give you a warning but Dealers still get the same treatment as before. But yeah, high prices Booo!!!

BTW You guys do know that weed can be grown at home? If the taxes or prices are just as high as they are now, users would just grow there own. Which would probably be illegal....again.

[Lei137]

Literally Marijuana causes craving to it once it started on the first take.......
I agree on the fact that it doesnt cause the crime.... but it is a form of addiction to the person who craves somethime.....
Anyone can be addicted to anything.....
I assume that this "weed" is some what to say a necessity to most people now......
Hmmmm..... crimes?, It can never be stopped and nearly the end to help..... there are lots of sources of crimes other than "weed"....
The police often say that a person becomes rampant because of the influence of drugs....
And I have to dissagree with something.... legalized?, not.........
but if you consider cigarettes.... it will be soon....
Marijuana makes you feel good, right?....... Well well well... see you.... sometimes......
There is a research that it increases metabolism of the body and gives the taker a mass increase in energy, thus its like tiring your body.....
and will definitely decrease their life span.....

Let them take it..... and let them die happily... at least their happy.....

My personal comment most atheletes use it nowadays and it CANNOT be traced....

[Nowhere_Man]

I take a centrist stance on the issue. But first, for reference:
Marajuana by ITSELF cannot get you addicted to it, nor is it any more dangerous than cigarettes. The problem stems from the sh*t they put in the joints; crack, heroin, other harmful substances.

On another note, I read a good article which made an excellent point: people who favor no restrictions on drugs have the same belief as people who favor no restrictions on firearms. They both, however, miss a crucial point: anything without restrictions becomes detrimental. I know, I'm bringing up something from another thread, but it's a good parallel. Anyway, Canada has begun a "safe-injection" pilot program in a few select cities, where people can get a small amount of a drug, given time to recover, a program to help quit, and a cookie. I'll be following this program closely, and so should america's politicians. the official us government response to this program is outrage.

[Ledgic]

First let me say my views on the issue then ill go to the debate section. The only way Nj should be legalized is if i am still allowed to grow( not saying i do now but if laws were changed.) If not, mj is gonna be just like cigarettes, taxed out the ass and expensive. Also im afraid that mj would be like a cigarette with the filters and other bs in it.

heck a peson that is smoking up a tree while driving would claim that they saw a smurf jump acroos the croad, swerve to avoid it, and cause an accident


Yea after he does Acid or something... Please

always wonder about the united states government..
they spend something like 15 billion dollars a year trying to combat marijuana.... when instead they could be making that 15 billion marketing it to the people.


Well looks look at this, the gov can either A lose billions of dollars fighting mj related crimes, or B can tax the drug and sell it at a PREMIUM. Now while there is alot of red tape to cross to get B. going, dont you think the gov would be happy as hell to make money off a new product? Not if they already make money. Now i dont know how but the gov makes money off of drugs. From everything to drug task forces to (flamesuit on) selling the drugs back to the street, they not only make a ass load of cash, but they also create jobs. Its an endless loop of buying selling arresting and selling again.

If the government sold weed and put a huge tax on it less people would do it and they would make more money its a win win situation


Why would less people smoke if it were legalized? I would say that any person who smokes would still smoke mj and since its legal even more would try it out since its availible readily at any corner store or bodega*.

No matter what happens its a lose lose situatuion for the recreational use pot smoker. If it stays illegal then well.. you have to chance get arrested. If its legalized it will cost more, along with the idea that big companies who adopt mj into there sales will try to make it too much like a cigarette.

[The_Chief_Blue_Meanie]

DEFINITELY NOT. This country already has too many stupid people. We don't need something that makes people even MORE incompetent to be gained so easily

[Beldizar]

Here's my solotion. It takes a page out of Canada's book, but makes it intelligent; no offense to Canada, but their solution is really silly because the government it the one in charge. And with socilized healthcare it's even sillier.

Specailized hotels owned by private individuals open where soft drugs are legal. People check in (proving thier age), have a nice place to stay while they use drugs and alcohol, then when they want to leave, they checkout. Now, the checkout isn't just turn in the key and go. To leave they have to be sober. Thus we provide a place for people to engage in the behavior of thier choosing, but take away alot of the dangers they pose themselves and other people. You won't be beating your wife or children while you are under the influence of these drugs because you'll be at this hotel the entire time.

Heavy taxes on these places isn't a terrible idea, but you have to remember that its quite possible that clean and good people are the ones running these places and you don't want business owners to be punished for trying to restrict behavior of the population.

Another solution this idea presents, is that it takes away the worst part of the "gateway drug" stigma. A gateway drug isn't always a gateway drug because it's got you completely hooked, but because it introduces you to illegal drug dealers who can step up the intensitiy of your purchaces. Having everything out in the open this way doesn't make so much room for illegal activity.

Oh, and the reason the War on drugs started was to kill the income of enemy communist nations. Any locally produced drugs would bypass the original purpose for this "War" as it is called. If these hotels were opened, and drugs from non-terrorist and non-communist sources were used, the demands for illegal drugs would drop significantly because of the much safer solution available.

So as a bit of a conclusion, I think that not one, but all soft drugs should be selectivly legalized in the confines of specailized settings run by private owners.

[DeaconFrost]

Lets just clear up a few things about weed real quick.

1. In 99% of situation people who just smoke do not get violent, in fact in my 4 years of occaisonal weed use I have never seen someone that was smoking get into a fight or start a fight with anyone. Unlike alchohol which seems to make ALOT of people violent/angry depending on the person/situation.

2. Normal marijuana does NOT make you hallucinate. If you are hallucinating from weed its because there is something other then just THC in it.

3. Marijuana DOES have legitimate medical uses. I speak from personal experience because when my great-grandma was dying from stomach cancer and could not eat without throwing up, the doctors didn't have anything to help her. My grandma asked me to get her some weed and I did, and guess what? She was able to eat, she was in a happy mood for awhile, and she didn't have the problems with nausea and vomiting she had after eating without any weed first.

4. There are many professional, hard-working people I know that use weed on a regular basis. Most people I know use it the same way people use alchohol except you don't get sick off it and you don't feel like crap the next day.

[Azraelus]

wow there are a lot of people that know nothing about weed...

1.marijuana causes eurporia it doesnt impede reaction time or perception, you see the same way you normally do, driving a car high is the same as sober except that the eurphoria (the feeling that makes you feel high) makes you feel good while driving. Marijuana stays in the body for 30-40 days. so when they say that a driver that crashed had marijuana in his blood that basically means this

The driver that crashed could have smoked from anywhere from today to 2 months ago.

there is no way to know when someone smoked exactly. another thing to note is that a great deal of people smoke, so if 50%of the nation smokes weed and 35% of the nation gets in accidents (im just using figurative numbers here for example) then that means about 20-40% of people that get into accidents smoke, that doesnt mean that they were smoking just that they smoke. dont listen to the commercials that say so and so amount of people that get into accidents were under marijuana influence, all they do is check the blood, there is no way to know if you actually smoked and then got into an accident.

Also when high you tend to be more cautious simply because your high, marijuana increases your brains creativity parts so you tend to think of bad things that can happen a lot more than the average person. because of this people that drive high tend to drive slower, most likely if someone is high (again theoretical and logical guess) and gets in an accident, it was the other person.

Marijuana also allows your brain to focus on the task at hand a great deal more than normal. when you drive high you more attentive to the road then someone sober, plain and simple, its just the way the drug is, its why people seem to think that they are smarter and more focused under the influence of marijuana, while this is a debatable opinion and not yet considered fact the reason why people think this is because it is true that you can focus more on what your doing when your high. because you focus better you tend to think or do things in a more related matter then normal. (dont believe me, watch a movie high, and notice how many times your entire mind drifts to the focus of the movie)

2.excevive amounts of marijuana will do nothing perment to the brain (sorry people weed doesnt kill brain cells) remember the old brain on drugs commercials, they were referring to marijuana, they took those of the air because it was untrue, science realized that marijuana has no long term effects on the human body. SMOKING has effects on the human body, marijuana does not.

3.time distortion - because of euphoria you tend to focus on the every moment because of the way you feel, essentially you are savoring the way that your nerves are reacting to the THC, seeming to slow or suddenly speed up time, its not a true time distortion like speed is, its just your focused on something so much you dont realize time.

4.smoking weed every day however numbs your braincells (when you smoke a sticky citoplasm is created around the outerlayers of your brain, this creates the euphoria as well as stimulates certain regions of the brain) numbing your brain cells is not destructive, however it is temporaliy counter productive, i suggest no more than 2 blunts maybe 3 a week. within 7 days this side effect completely goes away. this side effect makes accessing certain thinking functions harder and slower, thus making it seem that pot heads are stupid, they just need to rest their brain for a while and then theyll be back to normal.

5.marijuana is not a gateway drug (sorry people) Because of marijuana's illegality factor it tends to bring the people who do it into another world, the world of drugs. marijuans effects are not as dominate as alchohols, and in fact alchohol's effects are more closely related to other drugs then weed will ever be. weed isnt the gateway, however the world that weed is in, is. im 18 and been smoking and drinking since i was 12 (i drink very rarely, once every 6months but when i do.....) i smoke a great deal less then i used to, im starting to tire of drugs, and i only use weed now as a creativity enhancer, but im gettin sick of smoking and soon ill quit. i can assure you that weed doesnt "hook" you and isnt addictive. i used to smoke every day maybe 2-4 blunts a day, during school time, and 7-10 in the summer. everyday me and about 5 other of my friends copped some chronic and blazed up, im a fairly intelligent person, but i must attest to the fact that weed did make me temporaily slower in thought formulization after i was done being high. because i smoked everyday they 7 day waiting period never came into effect. but i dont smoke nearly as much, 1 blunt a week and that is only when i get up with my friends.

6.weed might as well be legal, people are going to do it anyway, and i do know some fairly smart and responsible adults that enjoy the pleasures that THC has to offer, its not as bad as people say it is, and until you do it youll never understand.

WARNING

in extreme amount of doses marijuana will cause you to what i call "overthink" what happens is that you delude yourself by thinking too much symptoms are parinoia (forgive me if i spelled it wrong, my spelling is atrocious) deluding realities most often directed and controlled by some sort of paranoia.

If you are light in weight or new to smoking, i suggest 5-10 puffs (dont pull just puff) allow the marijuana to set in (5-10minutes) and see if your ready for more.

Thank you

[Bellatrixie]

of course i think it should cause i smoke it everyday but even though i do
i think there would be a whole lot more accidents my friend was killed in a car accident involving pot. so really i dont know.

There WOULD be a whole lot more accidents.
Maybe if America goes the way of Canada and opens those places where you buy it and smoke it in the shop or somethin. *shrugs*

You can't buy weed in any shops in Canada. They want to decriminalize it, not legalize it. Here's an article. ^^
http://canadaonline.about.com/cs/marijuana/a/mjreformbill.htm

[sonne]

You can buy "weed" in Amsterdam. The Netherlands provide you with that help for "potheads." Anyway, marijuana is not really going to murder or rape anyone, sadistic minds will. From what I have recalled in my few time of smoking weed, nothing really happened. I basically was so "high" I could hardly move, I couldn't even talk. Of course many people say "marijuana is a gateway drug," but it's all on the user. It mostly leads to junk food. The only way you'll see a smurf while smoking weed is if you take any drugs (acid, shrooms, etc.) before that pot or you put PCP on it. PCP is a liquid-like substance that you put on smokable objects (marijuana, hash, nutmeg, etc.). But yes, most of what everyone else said are pretty positive and unique ideas. Especially that post about the "soft drugs" and the hotel-like building. Anyway, I think marijuana in some cases should be legal but yes, it may cause additional percentages in car crashes.

Marijuana being illegal is an excellent idea as well. If it stays illegal, you wont see anyone driving with a blunt in their mouth. Thus preventing certain car crashes. If a person does decide to drive high they will most likely smoke then drive. In some ways, that drive may forget to open the garage causing no harm to anyone. Even if the driver does get out on the street, they'll be driving extremely slow, no harm not foul. I have provided pros and con of this subject and has forced myself to be undecided. Pity.

[SSJ112]

legalizing weed is the best overall solution. even high taxes aren't neccesary. Weed will no longer be a gateway drug this way, and will no longer come from untrusted services (dealers) which 'sabotage' the substance.

BTW: weed addicts you mentaly, not physicaly. it also causes lung problems (when smoked, obviously).

[Neravine]

Sure it should be, make it government regulated and taxed and CH-CHING! the deficit is gone before we can say "wasted". Oh and prostitution should be legalized and regulated to for the same reason.

[~Sephiroth~]

Liquor is legalized for people above the age of 21, and that is just as bad as marijuana. I think marijuana should be legalized, but you should have to be over 21 to buy it, same law as alcohol.

[sonne]

Alcohol has killed A LOT more than marijuana has, this could also be because of it being illegal. Perhaps the government should legalize it for a small period of time and observe the new death and accident rates.

[Wolfesbane]

Marijuana in my opinion is not dangerous by itself. If used in moderation, there is nothing wrong with it. However, how cliche this might sound, it is a gateway drug. If you really get into smoking joints, your that much closer to buying some coke, or breaking your good spoons. If we make it legal then we have to be concerned on not what it is by itself, but what it will lead to.

[~Sephiroth~]

Alcohol has killed A LOT more than marijuana has, this could also be because of it being illegal. Perhaps the government should legalize it for a small period of time and observe the new death and accident rates.

Good idea.

[Kabobward]

As point out earlier, it's a gateway drug because it takes you closer into the world of drugs. Smoking marijuana does not suddenly alter someones mind.

[Heartless Archangel]

marijuana should not be legalized, it has bad effects than good..
drugs destroy the future of our youth today, and if this kind of drug is legalized, i just dont know what will happen to the future of the kids of today..

[Wolfesbane]

Alcohol has killed A LOT more than marijuana has, this could also be because of it being illegal. Perhaps the government should legalize it for a small period of time and observe the new death and accident rates.

Good idea.
No, because if they legalize and the rates go up, they will make it illegal again. And the people who got addicited to it legally will still be hooked.

[Kabobward]

News flash-over half the kids are already smoking it now. It affects you less then beer, and it's not as bad for you as smoking. Marijuana would be legal today. It's been studied by presidents in the past. Reagan was a step from legallizing it until a member of his cabinet came out with a serious drug problem.

[00adamcook]

i think it should be legal to have if Doctor writes a note. like medical marijuana. otherwise it should be illegal.

[sonne]

i think it should be legal to have if Doctor writes a note. like medical marijuana. otherwise it should be illegal.

Actually marijuana is legal as a perscrption. I forgot what disease/sickness you need to have it proscribed though.

Rattle Snake
Anyway, have you seen today's youth already? I'm not saying rap music is tastless and has caused Americas youth to become unaware of intelligence.. but, it really has. Most of the ignorance comes from children who look up to 2Pac as a deiety. Though I do like some rap music but it seriously has effected the intelligence of most of the fans.
Kind of contradicting what I just said.. Let's finalize this. Not all rap music is disasterous against intelligence but it has some things to sort out. Not all fans of rap are ignorant but the majority is.

I'm accidentally changing topics a little, for that I am sorry. I would continue but there is not reason to, it would be redundant.

[Daeowan]

News flash-over half the kids are already smoking it now. It affects you less then beer, and it's not as bad for you as smoking. Marijuana would be legal today. It's been studied by presidents in the past. Reagan was a step from legallizing it until a member of his cabinet came out with a serious drug problem.

Just because it isn't as bad as something else doesn't mean it's good. It's
still bad. Marijuana has a nice calming effect to it (which is why a lot of people
use it) but it still harms your lungs, distorts your perception and motor skills
and can actually become a depressant. People become addicted to it. Not
everyone does. Those who claim marijuana isn't addictive are adamant
about that, whether they still smoke it or not. I wouldn't be surprised if
marijuana harms you even while using it medicinally. Any kind of smoke you
suck through your lungs has to be bad.

There's no need for human beings to be using substances such as these
if there is no medical reason to be doing it. It weakens the mind and body
and is ultimately a burden. Sure, smokes and beer are worse. That's just
history laughing us in the face there. People are working on it.

[Kabobward]

And you're going into morality. Law isn't always decided by morality. If things like smoking and beer are legal, then so should marijuana.

And as for when it's perscribed; it's not noraml marijuana. it isn't even smoked. That's a common misconception. It's given to people with fatal diseases to ease pain, so the health issues aren't a concern.

[sonne]

You could think of it as this, it is one of the least killing drugs on the planet. It's just people try to scare you into not doing drugs. Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless, you just have to know what you're doing. "To be a successful drug user you have to be well informed" - Groove

[~Sephiroth~]

You could think of it as this, it is one of the least killing drugs on the planet. It's just people try to scare you into not doing drugs. Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless, you just have to know what you're doing. "To be a successful drug user you have to be well informed" - Groove

Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless? Yeah, until your little batch of E is contaminated with some other concoction that sends you into a coma. Until you shoot up with heroin that has been tainted or you use an infected needle and BAM, there goes your arm. I consider marijuana to be about on the same level as alcohol in terms of danger, which is why I think they both should be available to buy at the age of 21. But saying that most illegal drugs are fun but harmless, that's just pure stupidity.

[Neravine]

You could think of it as this, it is one of the least killing drugs on the planet. It's just people try to scare you into not doing drugs. Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless, you just have to know what you're doing. "To be a successful drug user you have to be well informed" - Groove

That is the most uninformed, moronic, ridiculous statment I have ever heard. Have you ever watched someone be slowly destroyed by meth or alchohol or heroine? have you ever watched someone sink deeper and deeper into a depression because they use E? Have you ever seen the dead lifless look in a freinds eyes when they OD? You have no idea what your talking about you foolish little child, go back to your fantasy world and keep your idiotic oppinions to yourself.

[Daeowan]

And you're going into morality. Law isn't always decided by morality. If things like smoking and beer are legal, then so should marijuana.

Well maybe it's time we changed a few of the rules, neh? Besides, beer and
cigarettes are being actively campaigned against. I dare say more than
marijuana. Alcohol and tobacco are harmful and a lot of people are getting
sick of it. The same would happen if marijuana was legalized.


And as for when it's perscribed; it's not noraml marijuana. it isn't even smoked. That's a common misconception. It's given to people with fatal diseases to ease pain, so the health issues aren't a concern.

It's given to them and what? Do they eat it? Inject it? What? I could look it
up, but you always crack me up with your replies. Fire away.

[Kabobward]

Perscription marijuana comes in pills, and it's altered. And just because something is bad doesn't mean it should be illegal. This is a country about the rights of the individual. Smoking doesn't harm anyone but the person doing it.

[sonne]

How can you two (~Sephiroth~ and Neravine) say things like that? How could you be that hateful to me as well? Did you even read the post, the key word I used there was "Most." This means not all. I guarantee that if you know what you are doing before takeing durgs you will not die. E doesn't kill you on the spot or the 1st time taking it. People dies because they are ignorant and dehydrated. Those commercials on TV say that when they died, only ecstacy was present.. but why did she die, most likely because she didn't have a clue what she was doing. Another thing, depression doesn't come from drugs or E. One of my friends used to take E everyday and she's perfectly fine. And when she took it, she seemed fine the whole time, untill her boyfriend broke up with her but that's irrelevant.

Most people get contaminated needles because they're not cautious. If I were the one injecting my arm, I would atleast use my own supplies and steralize them as well. Not doing so proves you're worthy to accept the concequence of loosing your arm.

I'm not trying to say every illegal drug is innocent, just most. Here are a few, Marijuana, Ecstacy, Shrooms, Acid. Yes there are news stories about these drugs but they never thought about who did them. It's always the same stories as well.. "Kid on acid jumps off the building because he though he could fly." If he thought he would fly, why not jump off a car instead? Hey look, one less moron in the world! I'm not generally a vulgar person but issues like that are plain absurd. If you knew anything about the drugs you will take then you'll be fine.

Anyway, why would your drug dealer want to kill you anyway. You're his/her customer, the more you come to them, the more money they earn. There's no point in contaminating the drugs. Just get it from someone reliable. Don't go over to some from a derranged man hopping around when you can get the from a more responsible dealer. Not that they're really responsible for becoming a drug dealer but it's different. Drugs don't kill as much as people claim them to be. There are a-dime-a-dozen actors/actresses and musicians that take drugs everyday and haven't died yet. Some have but not every one of them. Doesn't this say something to you?

[Daeowan]

Perscription marijuana comes in pills, and it's altered. And just because something is bad doesn't mean it should be illegal. This is a country about the rights of the individual. Smoking doesn't harm anyone but the person doing it.

Touche. But if we were all truly free people, we could rob, cheat and steal
anytime we wanted. Rights to the individual should only really go so far. I
mean, if substances like tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, PCP and heroine were
allowed to circulate freely throughout the country, then it would just impede
the potential growth of the nation, wouldn't it?

I know marijuana is considered pretty light in comparrison to a lot of drugs,
but it still has negative effects that our society doesn't have time for. We
should be worried about a lot of other things rather than worrying about our
next hit from a bong.

[Kabobward]

Yes, as a society we draw the line at behavior that affects others, or we should. Smoking and marijuana don't do this, though.

And Sonne, yes, you can die from a single pill. The problem with designer drugs is that they're all cut differently. It's not monitered like pills you buy in the store. You could get multiple times the drug as another person with just a single pill. Granted, it's not something frequent, but it can happen.

[~Sephiroth~]

How can you two (~Sephiroth~ and Neravine) say things like that? How could you be that hateful to me as well?

It's actually really easy.


E doesn't kill you on the spot or the 1st time taking it. People dies because they are ignorant and dehydrated.

Uh, yeah it can kill you on the spot if it is contaminated.

Yeah well, ignorant people also say "people dies" in their sentences, kinda like you just did.


Those commercials on TV say that when they died, only ecstacy was present.. but why did she die, most likely because she didn't have a clue what she was doing. Another thing, depression doesn't come from drugs or E.

Yeah, and maybe 75% of the teenagers out there in the world do not know what they are doing when it comes to drugs. That last 25% that actually know how to use drugs properly have probably become ignorant because they use so much drugs. Also, when the Hell did I say depression comes from drugs or E?


One of my friends used to take E everyday and she's perfectly fine. And when she took it, she seemed fine the whole time, untill her boyfriend broke up with her but that's irrelevant.

It is irrelevant, because I do not care about your friend or any of your personal stories...

No no no, I DO NOT care.


Most people get contaminated needles because they're not cautious. If I were the one injecting my arm, I would atleast use my own supplies and steralize them as well. Not doing so proves you're worthy to accept the concequence of loosing your arm.

You keep on making the same excuse over, and over again. It's like you're saying drugs are only dangerous when you are stupid or ignorant. News flash, drugs are dangerous 24 hours a day.


I'm not trying to say every illegal drug is innocent, just most. Here are a few, Marijuana, Ecstacy, Shrooms, Acid. Yes there are news stories about the

That's as far as I got into that paragrpah of idiocy before I started gagging on my tongue and vomiting up pieces of my stomach.


Anyway, why would your drug dealer want to kill you anyway.

That is...... One of the most IGNORANT things I have ever heard. Do you even understand that your drug dealer probably gets his drugs from other dealers, and they get theirs from others and so on and so forth. In your little infantile brain you cannot even maybe think that you just might get a contaminated hit of something?


You're his/her customer, the more you come to them, the more money they earn. There's no point in contaminating the drugs. Just get it from someone reliable. Don't go over to some from a derranged man hopping around when you can get the from a more responsible dealer. Not that they're really responsible for becoming a drug dealer but it's different. Drugs don't kill as much as people claim them to be. There are a-dime-a-dozen actors/actresses and musicians that take drugs everyday and haven't died yet. Some have but not every one of them. Doesn't this say something to you?

Yeah, it says to me that they have a lot more money than other people do so they can buy quality stuff.

[Neravine]

How can you two (~Sephiroth~ and Neravine) say things like that? How could you be that hateful to me as well?

Because your an ignorant burn-out who DESERVES to OD.


E doesn't kill you on the spot or the 1st time taking it. People dies because they are ignorant and dehydrated

Wrong. E can cause massive brain hemorrhaging, heart fluctuations or kidney failure on the first try. Ignorance has absolutely nothing to do with it, the only kind of ignorance that’s relevant to the issue is ignorance like yours that causes people to think that drugs are OK.




One of my friends used to take E everyday and she's perfectly fine. And when she took it, she seemed fine the whole time, until her boyfriend broke up with her but that's irrelevant.

Wrong. E permanently damages the parts of your brain that manufacture seratonin and endorphins, the chemicals that cause you to be happy or feel good. By causing a rush of these chemicals E severely damages the brain and causes it to produce much less of these two and other substances when not under the influence of the drug, causing extreme depression and emotional dependency on the drug. Your friend may have seemed fine but in truth she was hiding the horrible depression she was carrying around every day of her life.



Most people get contaminated needles because they're not cautious. If I were the one injecting my arm, I would at least use my own supplies and sterilize them as well. Not doing so proves you're worthy to accept the consequence of loosing your arm.


Are you really so disillusioned that you think an H junkie would sterilize their needles?! Don’t be ridiculous! I’ve known 3 junkies in my time and when there shooting up they don’t check the needle, all that exists in the world for them is the feeling of that next high, at that moment the couldn’t care less about how clean their needle is.



Just get it from someone reliable.

There is no such thing as a "reliable" dealer. You may know the guy that sells it but do you know the guy who made it? How bout the guy that supplies the materials to make it? Answer, no. How much cheaper is it to make a tablet of speed, say its ecstasy, then sell it to some chump for ten bucks rather than give them real E? Really cheap. Here’s a news flash, drug dealers don’t care about your health or your well being, if they did why the f**k would they be selling you drugs!? They only care about turning a profit, their customers are totally replaceable to them.



Drugs don't kill as much as people claim them to be.

Yes they do, you've just tricked yourself into believing they don’t so you can keep using without fear but the truth is, your very, very wrong.

[Kabobward]

EVERYONE who takes "E" does not become depressed...

[Neravine]

EVERYONE who takes "E" does not become depressed...

If they take enough they sure as hell do, the first month or two of use wont make an extreme differance but over time you'll become seriously depressed.

[Gossamer Wings]

We've gotten a little off topic, but about E:

E eats away at your brain. The quickest way to fry your brain cells is to take another tablet. E does to your brain what Alzheimer's disease does: it damages your serotonergic axons. Do you really want to behave the way a senile old man who has Alzheimer's disease does?

Why risk the chance of long-term as well as short term psychological problems such as paranoia, anxiety attacks, depression, insomnia, psychosis, flashbacks, hallucinations, and dependency syndromes?

A person taking E will also experience depersonalisation and derealisation, affecting his or her judgement. It alters your judgement a lot worse than if you were drinking. How would you prevent yourself from getting dehydrated? You wouldn't have the cognitive capacity to tell if you were getting dehydrated or not... One girl died on her 16th birthday when she took E and foolishly tried to rehydrate herself, and ended up drinking gallons of water and getting blood poisoning.

You can get these effects with just one or two doses of E. It's not just the chronic users that will experiences these negative effects.

These are the ones that might come on the first dose of E:

Confusion
Sleep problems
Anxiety
Teeth clenching
Blurred vision
Acne like rash
Brain damage
Depression
Addiction
Paranoia
Nausea
Chills and sweating
Liver damage
Aggression

[sonne]

Not every drug dealer is out to get you like the fans who have been using me as a basis for their comparison of drugs and stupidity. Why the hell am I ignorant for a typo? Jesus Christ, I'm sorry beyond the simapthy i am able to produce. I didn't know I would be called names for giving you pros and cons on a subject. I know drugs aren't perfect but if you feel you have post slanderous adjectives to title me then I suggest you don't read beyond the bold words. I can't stand anyone who descibes me as an idiot and ignorant to prove their views on drugs is correct. I'm sorry you can't feel any compassion to any views of a discussion that you feel nagative about. Why must you hate me upon my postings, can't you just put what you feel down on this topic? This is labeled as a"discussion," which is similar to a debate. Not once have I seen anyone on a debate hate another person for whatever side they choose. I'm sorry you hate me the way you do but if you're just going to read the rest of this in an attempt to produce libel or further call me ignorant then please...
DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER!

Most people (Drug Dealers) try not to team up with any one an pass down drugs. Some people would rather grow it instead of only have a small protion of money for them to spend. If they grow it on their own then it's basically all profit. If you know a person that grows it then you wouldn't really need to worry about contamination. There are risks involved but there always is even from little advil that you bought at the local pharmacy.
However, there's not much risk in marijuana. There are things you could do to it but not much. No one really ever get's killed from mrijuana so there's one fact that shows a slight risk in the smoking of pot.[/b]

[Kabobward]

That's nice about marijuana, but you made blanket statements about drugs in general. You said most weren't that bad. It was just an ignorant statement.

There isn't any risk when you buy advil at the store. It's strictly regulated. On the other hand, pills you find on the streets, such as E aren't controlled at all. They don't even contain the same proportion of the drug. Things are added to them. Your statements are just moronic.

[~Sephiroth~]

Not every drug dealer is out to get you like the fans who have been using me as a basis for their comparison of drugs and stupidity. Why the hell am I ignorant for a typo? Jesus Christ, I'm sorry beyond the simapthy i am able to produce. I didn't know I would be called names for giving you pros and cons on a subject. I know drugs aren't perfect but if you feel you have post slanderous adjectives to title me then I suggest you don't read beyond the bold words. I can't stand anyone who descibes me as an idiot and ignorant to prove their views on drugs is correct. I'm sorry you can't feel any compassion to any views of a discussion that you feel nagative about. Why must you hate me upon my postings, can't you just put what you feel down on this topic? This is labeled as a"discussion," which is similar to a debate. Not once have I seen anyone on a debate hate another person for whatever side they choose. I'm sorry you hate me the way you do but if you're just going to read the rest of this in an attempt to produce libel or further call me ignorant then please...
DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER!

Most people (Drug Dealers) try not to team up with any one an pass down drugs. Some people would rather grow it instead of only have a small protion of money for them to spend. If they grow it on their own then it's basically all profit. If you know a person that grows it then you wouldn't really need to worry about contamination. There are risks involved but there always is even from little advil that you bought at the local pharmacy.
However, there's not much risk in marijuana. There are things you could do to it but not much. No one really ever get's killed from mrijuana so there's one fact that shows a slight risk in the smoking of pot.[/b]

I have no idea of the drug dealers you know or are in contact with, but every single one I know has some kind of outside dealer when they need stuff and then it's just one big chain of buddies who try to share a small amount of their stuff with others. Not for free of course. I also know a few dealers who do grow their own stuff, but most of them have contacts and outside sources that they get their stuff from.

You are maybe 10,000 times more likely to die from contaminated drugs then you are from contaminated advil. Especially since bottles of advil go through tests and stuff, and machines to make sure they are clean.

I wasn't angered by you saying that weed isn't very dangerous, I was angered by you saying that shrooms, acid, and ecstacy were harmless. I have never seen anyone really destroy themselves with marijuana, they just become stupid and dull. But with those other three drugs, I have seen people destory their lives and they become these lifeless shells and a few people I have known died because of excessive use of these drugs. You saying they're harmless DISGUSTS me.

[Wolfesbane]

News flash-over half the kids are already smoking it now. It affects you less then beer, and it's not as bad for you as smoking. Marijuana would be legal today. It's been studied by presidents in the past. Reagan was a step from legallizing it until a member of his cabinet came out with a serious drug problem.
You don't think I know that? You don't think I used to go out there with all my freinds and puff in Frankies van? Making it legal only opens up the other half to it. I remain by my statment that legalizing marijuana will only lead to a more severe drug dependancy on the seriously bad drugs.

[Kabobward]

Then the same would have to be said for cigaretts and alcohol, then...

If marijuana were legal, you could just buy it in a store. You wouldn't be exposed to the same environment as you are normally while getting the drug. You don't seem to be able to get that.

[sonne]

Good god?! I told you that if you were going to whine about everything I said and call me ignorant then don't read further. You however call me ignorant when you couldn't follow explicit, but simple directions of not reading further. Who's the ignorant one now?
(The above was intended for ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward)

(The below is intended for every soul that has used my words against me because they hate me and just plain suck... ~Sephiroth~, Neravine, and Kabobward)
Don't read my post if you're just going to twist my words in order to fulfill you desire to insult me and boost your ego. Just stop reading what I write.

(This is for everyone)
The last post I put before this was only about marijuana because this topic has gotten out of control and was my way of trying to set it strait. This would have succeeded but the ignorance of ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward prevented this. That advil remark was a metaphorical example which dumb people couldn't understand. It was to be understood as that most legal drugs you can buy have terrible side effects. They state them in commercials and on the boxes. I was just using the advil example to help prove my point that all drugs have effects. Some of them help you and and others just get you ill.

Finally this post is about marijuana not all drugs. Let's stop the instults and post about the reefer.

[Kabobward]

If you can't handle getting your OPINIONS insulted, then don't post them.

Your comparison to advil doesn't work. Advil doesn't have terrible side-effects. Drugs that do require perscriptions. Those drugs aren't to be taken lightly. Over the counter drugs can not be compared unless you grossly misuse them (meaning you take an entire bottle of advil at a time...).

You brought everything upon yourself by bringing up other drugs to begin with. Don't go and ***** when people tell you how stupid your ideas are. You haven't done any research on the matter, and don't have a clue as to what you are saying. Pretty much everything you've said hasn't been true.

I'd like to hear how anyone has twisted your words around at all.



Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless



It's just people try to scare you into not doing drugs.

And people like you spout this garbage around without thinking. This isn't talking about cigaretts and alcohol. You said most illegal drugs. MOST meaning pretty much all of them. Pretty much every drug has been discussed, and its dangers shown. What you're doing is just the same as anyone who compares marijuana to heroin.

[~Sephiroth~]

Good god?! I told you that if you were going to whine about everything I said and call me ignorant then don't read further. You however call me ignorant when you couldn't follow explicit, but simple directions of not reading further. Who's the ignorant one now?
(The above was intended for ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward)

(The below is intended for every soul that has used my words against me because they hate me and just plain suck... ~Sephiroth~, Neravine, and Kabobward)
Don't read my post if you're just going to twist my words in order to fulfill you desire to insult me and boost your ego. Just stop reading what I write.

(This is for everyone)
The last post I put before this was only about marijuana because this topic has gotten out of control and was my way of trying to set it strait. This would have succeeded but the ignorance of ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward prevented this. That advil remark was a metaphorical example which dumb people couldn't understand. It was to be understood as that most legal drugs you can buy have terrible side effects. They state them in commercials and on the boxes. I was just using the advil example to help prove my point that all drugs have effects. Some of them help you and and others just get you ill.

Finally this post is about marijuana not all drugs. Let's stop the instults and post about the reefer.

1. I never said you were ignorant ANYWHERE in that post. I said your views about shrooms, acid, and E disgusted me.
2. You are still the ignorant one, because that was the first post that I actually tried to be civil and I didn't insult you or call you any names.
3. I didn't twist your words, I replied to EXACTLY what you said.
4. I am going to keep reading what you write and replying as long as the topic appeals to me because this is a public forum. You cannot tell certain people they can reply and tell others that they can't.
5. You called me dumb, you called me ignorant, and in my last post I didn't call you any names at all. You did exactly what you asked me, nay, TOLD me not to do. You are a hypocrite, a filthy hypocrite.

Lastly, at the end you say let's stop the insults? I know why, it's ok, I understand that you are running away. I understand you wanted to have the last word. I understand you want to be able to say your piece, be able to boost YOUR ego, and then you want to just try to let it die.

From now on, I'll be sure to pay extra special attention to your posts.

[Gossamer Wings]

@ sonne:

You have no idea what slander and libel are. Slander is spoken defamation, libel is written defamation. To say that insulting you is slanderous is ridiculous, because we aren't speaking to you in person. This is an internet forum, we're not damaging your friggin reputation, because you go under an alias here. Insults are not the equivalent of slander or libel. Go get a dictionary and look up further useless blather before you feel the need to post it.


For too long our nation's teens have been getting the wrong message about marijuana. Youth popular culture has trivialized the real harm of marijuana in kids," Walters said.

A common misperception is that smoking marijuana is less dangerous than smoking a cigarette, said Surgeon General Richard Carmona. But marijuana contains three to five times more tar and carbon monoxide than a comparable amount of tobacco, he said. It also affects the brain in ways similar to cocaine and heroin.

Educate yourself, ignorant child. THC damages your brain, numbs your senses in the long term, ****s up your lungs... Not to mention the acne, the shrunken testicles.. etc. People HAVE died from it, if not from some ****ing idiot under the influence, then by something as stupid as bronchitis, because you **** up your body so badly after you use it. And if people like you chose to still use it? That's fine by me. When you run over someone's child, or do something stupid enough to put other people in danger, I hope you get put in jail a long, long time.

[Neravine]

Not every drug dealer is out to get you like the fans who have been using me as a basis for their comparison of drugs and stupidity. Why the hell am I ignorant for a typo? Jesus Christ, I'm sorry beyond the simapthy i am able to produce. I didn't know I would be called names for giving you pros and cons on a subject. I know drugs aren't perfect but if you feel you have post slanderous adjectives to title me then I suggest you don't read beyond the bold words. I can't stand anyone who descibes me as an idiot and ignorant to prove their views on drugs is correct. I'm sorry you can't feel any compassion to any views of a discussion that you feel nagative about. Why must you hate me upon my postings, can't you just put what you feel down on this topic? This is labeled as a"discussion," which is similar to a debate. Not once have I seen anyone on a debate hate another person for whatever side they choose. I'm sorry you hate me the way you do but if you're just going to read the rest of this in an attempt to produce libel or further call me ignorant then please...
DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER!

Most people (Drug Dealers) try not to team up with any one an pass down drugs. Some people would rather grow it instead of only have a small protion of money for them to spend. If they grow it on their own then it's basically all profit. If you know a person that grows it then you wouldn't really need to worry about contamination. There are risks involved but there always is even from little advil that you bought at the local pharmacy.
However, there's not much risk in marijuana. There are things you could do to it but not much. No one really ever get's killed from mrijuana so there's one fact that shows a slight risk in the smoking of pot.[/b]

The entire first product of your post makes no sense. Whatever it is that your babbaling about it does nothing but further what i've said in the past. Is english your first language? If it is for some bizare reason then did you ever pay attention in grammer class? I'm not talking about one specific part of the grammer class, I mean the entire subject. You try so hard to sound intelligent but the truth shines through, either the drugs have made you even more simple than you originaly were, or you dont know anything about basic sentance structure.

I take no issue with marijuana, I could care less about the people who deal it. Its all other illegal drugs I have a problem with, why dont you make a quasi-intellectual response about heroine or meth or coke? Let me geuss, you dont know anything about drugs like that do you?


No one really ever get's killed from mrijuana so there's one fact that shows a slight risk in the smoking of pot

This simply isnt true, you need to look up some actuall information before you make such nieve and foolish statements.



Good god?! I told you that if you were going to whine about everything I said and call me ignorant then don't read further. You however call me ignorant when you couldn't follow explicit, but simple directions of not reading further. Who's the ignorant one now?
(The above was intended for ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward)



Who exactly do you think you are? You think your words warrent immediate obediance? If you write it, it will be read, thats the idea on a public forum. When you write "Dont read this!" on an open disscusion people will pay even more attention to it because they know it must be something incredibly ignorant if you dont want people to read it in the first place, is that whole concept to hard for your rotted piece of swiss cheese you call a brain?


The below is intended for every soul that has used my words against me because they hate me and just plain suck... ~Sephiroth~, Neravine, and Kabobward)
Don't read my post if you're just going to twist my words in order to fulfill you desire to insult me and boost your ego. Just stop reading what I write.



Actually we didn't twist your wrods, we quoted you. Now by the definition I'm familiar with twisting someone's words means taking them out of context, changing key phrases, or changing the order of the statment. Supprise supprise, none of us did that.




(This is for everyone)
The last post I put before this was only about marijuana because this topic has gotten out of control and was my way of trying to set it strait. This would have succeeded but the ignorance of ~Sephiroth~ and Kabobward prevented this. That advil remark was a metaphorical example which dumb people couldn't understand. It was to be understood as that most legal drugs you can buy have terrible side effects. They state them in commercials and on the boxes. I was just using the advil example to help prove my point that all drugs have effects. Some of them help you and and others just get you ill.

Finally this post is about marijuana not all drugs. Let's stop the instults and post about the reefer.

Thats why we have these people called "doctors" who determain if government aproved drugs like advil are appropriate for you, its called "perscribing". When these "doctor" characters do this they ases the possibility of side affects depending on your personal information, something no drug dealer can do. Why? Well firstly because drug dealers are only concerned with profit and couldnt care less about thier costumers. Also theirs the fact that ALL illegal drugs have serious SERIOUS side effects for everyone that uses them, not just the small percentage who experiance side effects from perscription or over the counter drugs. Like advil. My conclusion is that you just have no clue what your talking about and all the things you've said up to thi point are completley irrelivant simply because they are so uninformed.

[sonne]

Keep a CLOSE EYE! I'll make this simple for everyone. If you can not understand I insist you seek help.

MY BASIC WORDS
I told everyone that if they were going to read my post and then reply with an insult, then don't read further. However, you read away. I'm not directing this for one person but yes I am using the work "You" so don't talk to me about it.

THE TWISTING OF WORDS
For one, I devide my concepts into paragraph pieces for a reason. Because I say something and give reasons. You only quote me on everything I say or only a few words. You are twisting my words. When I say this I'm talking to people in general not just you Sephiroth.
EXAMPLE: You are making me say just "Drug dealers are good," when I might have said "Drug dealers are good in a way," and then put down reasons.
The example used has not really been said. This was a created example.

AS WE CAN SEE
As we can see, I have put my paragraphs into titles so there are no inconveniences. Don't ask me about them, just think about it and come up with your own conclusions.

MY VENT
I vented my views on people in that post. I did say some of the members were stupid and ignorant. This in more ways than one is called venting. "In more than one way" is called an expression. People use this for certain reasons which I will not talk about. I said this so the members who insult me know how much I love them as well. I used the word "love" because I felt sarcasm was needed. I put "Let's stop the instults and post about the reefer." at the end of my post because I wanted to say from then on NOT to use insults. I still want this to happen but Kabobward insists on holding a grudge.

KABOBWARD'S SCORN
I have not said anything about him until that post. Though he felt I must know how he feels about me. The reason I shall not know. He keeps telling me my opinions and posts are useless.
To Kabob: I understand how you feel. Stop talking about will you. If you really hate me that bad then why read my posts?

THE HATE
Sephiroth, you hate me. You even said so.
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It's actually really easy."

You say you have never insulted me but it was implied in you rants on how my view "suck." That word suck was not used by you but is not infact a real word do describe something. It is in the sense of slang. I used it in that sense with the quotes.

STONER?
It seems everyone is against me. For one, people look at me as some drug addict. Did anyone ever ask me any questions, such as "When is the last time you've done drugs?" You know nothing about me. So stop labeling me as a pothead. I've never told you how many times I've smoked so just stay silent as to who I am. That was for those who look to my post as a stoner's rants.

THE OTHER DRUGS?
Most of the members think I have included other drugs in this topic. Other people have used example of Alcohol and Cigarettes to help their points. They are the ones who started the other drugs. As for the Illegal drug, look at the very first posts in this topic. They suggested different ways to make every illegal drug available legally. I did not start this. What most people are claiminag about me are false. As me a question or two to see the way I really am about this before you call me ignorant.

ME
I am in a journalism class. I know the difference between slander and libel. I just used the word "sladerous" to emphsize my point on how people treat me.. Kind of like the was you treated me Gossamer Wings as well as many others. I did not realize that I MUST be completely spacific for every detail in my words for members to understand them. I though the members to A-F had a spot for common sense. I now realize that you will never entirely understnd me unless I'm on "your side." I said "your side" because you excessively treat me as if I were satan and you were god.

DO YOU REMEMBER?
Do you remember what I said? I said I was neither pro nor con. I was just listing somethings. They were relevant and claimed to be "moronic." Don't label me as the pothead when I am not for or against marijuana.

THE POSTS KEEP COMMING
I keep reading posts of people who I did not want to insult me but they keep doing so anyway.

THE LIES
You say no one has twisted my words? Look!
"Actually we didn't twist your wrods, we quoted you. Now by the definition I'm familiar with twisting someone's words means taking them out of context, changing key phrases, or changing the order of the statment. Supprise supprise, none of us did that." - Neravine
Actually you did.
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Neravine, you did not aquire all of my piece. I said there are slight risk but there are risks. Maybe you don't pay attention enough but when someone quotes another, quote the full piece. Now when you quote me on this, grabe certain sections, not words, sentences, the full section. This might be a little hard for you to go the extra mile but please do so you realize my writing style. You are using this against me. Don't.

THE FINAL WORDS OF NARAVINE TO ME
I did not talk about illegal drugs' side effects. I only told about the legal ones. such as proscribed medacine or just medicine in general. Please be quite about illegal drugs because I have not said a single thing about them in a while. I'm keeping the illegal drugs posts on a low profile. I used "a low profile" as an expression to show that I want to keep them elsewhere because this topic is about marijuana.

THE CONCLUSION
If you read all of that above and understand completely, give yourself a hand. Give yourself a hand is an expression. I have not insulted anyone though this post but you're comments may consist of them. I don't encourage this but it may happen. Perhaps you will refrain from using any vulgar language or any adjective to describe me. You may hate my examples and what not, but you don't have to call me names.

ONE LAST WORD
This is called 'One Last Word' but it's only a title. I am not for nor against marijuana. Don't make my quotes and your post to have me look as if I am for it.

[Neravine]

1. I couldnt care less about marijuana.

2. All of my posts have been spawned because you said, and I quote

"Most illegal drugs are fun but harmless"

Don't you relize how wrong that is?

3. None of us took your words out of context, warped what you said, or shortened your sentances to a point where the true message was lost.

4.
THE FINAL WORDS OF NARAVINE TO ME
I did not talk about illegal drugs' side effects. I only told about the legal ones. such as proscribed medacine or just medicine in general.



4a. Theres 2 Es in my name

4b. Talking about the side effects of perscription drugs and completley ignoring the side effects of illegal drugs is only telling one side of the argument, and the other side just happens to debunk everything you've said thus-far.

5. You're in a journalism class? Really? Supprising seeing how you have the english skills of a two year old with a railroad spike rammed into it's skull.

[Gossamer Wings]

ME
I am in a journalism class. I know the difference between slander and libel. I just used the word "sladerous" to emphsize my point on how people treat me.. Kind of like the was you treated me Gossamer Wings as well as many others. I did not realize that I MUST be completely spacific for every detail in my words for members to understand them. I though the members to A-F had a spot for common sense. I now realize that you will never entirely understnd me unless I'm on "your side." I said "your side" because you excessively treat me as if I were satan and you were god.

You can't expect people not to insult you. Especially after the kinds of posts you make! You don't need to be completely specific in any detail. I just think it's sad that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You said you were in a Journalism class? Then you shouldn't have made that type of accusation against everyone who insults you.


ONE LAST WORD
This is called 'One Last Word' but it's only a title. I am not for nor against marijuana. Don't make my quotes and your post to have me look as if I am for it.

Stop trying to hide from confrontation. You posted something, and we are responding. I'd also stop whining about people "twisting" your words, if I were you. No matter what context we put your quotes in, they still end up sounding stupid. We're quoting parts of your posts simply because if we quoted the whole thing, nobody would know which part we were referring to.