A4's Underground

[Tetsu.]

Club: A4's Underground [Hip hop clan]
Owner: Tetsu
Co_Owner:Bone Collecta
2nd Co_owner(V.I.P.):Prodigy


members:
1Tetsu
2bone collecta
3Shawty_305
4Jester138
5Katie_san
6BloodKnight
7Immortal warrior
8~*FallenAngelsBeauty*~
9Skater Punk Satoshi
10DILOFSPARDA
11Magi-boy
12SSJ2
13Saru
14Prodigy
15Undefined
16Kojima
17Air Grady
18sl1k
19Hanabashi
20IcareAlot
21.Cide
22.Doujin
231Nightmare1
24 Gekko
25Spydawebb
26. SweetSakura
27.topdog1992
28.KingTooT
29.Bushido
30.Ian420pznlove
31.YoungTopGun
32.Sleeping Forest
33.VashTheStampede6987
34.Shuyin
35.Azeike Zuoe
36.Fox Fire
38.Leviatan
39.Richie Dagger
40.Matthew

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APPROVED by WILDSTAR

[Tetsu.]

yay it's official XD....anyway have anyone of you seen the hip hop honors
and do you think the mc's that were chosen were fair?

[BloodKnight]

Yay for the Hip Hop clan!!!
Yeah, I've the the hip hop honors, and I think that most of them were chosen fairly, but I had some personal disputes with others. :twisted:

[Tetsu.]

I herd Nelly was one of them....Ew hell no :evil:

[Sol_Bad_GuY]

Nelly to me is R&B, I will never call him a hiphop artist. I didnt see the honor though. :(

[Bone Collecta]

stop with all the >> :twisted: and :evil: its not cool lookin its just weird.

anyway...............i cant wait for Nas' Street Disciple album

[Tetsu.]

stop with all the >> :twisted: and :evil: its not cool lookin its just weird.

anyway...............i cant wait for Nas' Street Disciple album

dang I love Nas song Thief's theme...the video was good I guess...but the song was good

[Magi Boy 21]

WASSS up guys pm me with your favorite rap song include ARTIST:
Song name:

[Tetsu.]

Anyway I'm going to make a topic:

Which album are you currently waiting for? include Artist too.

I myself is waiting for Red man's new album See Red Run

[Katie_san]

Hi all! I like, JUST found out the hip-hop clan opened! >_< I havent checked my pms for ages! Hooray for all who have joined, and sorry I havent posted earlier. :D

[Tetsu.]

Hi all! I like, JUST found out the hip-hop clan opened! >_< I havent checked my pms for ages! Hooray for all who have joined, and sorry I havent posted earlier. :D

no prob happens everytime :P

[Prod]

What? There's a Hip-Hop clan? Damn I've been away too long! Can I join up?

[Bone Collecta]

no prob.

[Tetsu.]

What? There's a Hip-Hop clan? Damn I've been away too long! Can I join up?

sure no prob :wink:

[BloodKnight]

Anyway I'm going to make a topic:

Which album are you currently waiting for? include Artist too.

I myself is waiting for Red man's new album See Red Run

To answer Solids question...some of the albums I'm currently waiting for are:
Shawnna's
Nas
...and Eminem's :twisted:

[Tetsu.]

Anyway I'm going to make a topic:

Which album are you currently waiting for? include Artist too.

I myself is waiting for Red man's new album See Red Run

To answer Solids question...some of the albums I'm currently waiting for are:
Shawnna's
Nas
...and Eminem's :twisted:

you sure are a fan for Shawnna :P And Em..pfft...Encore will be a hit...

[BloodKnight]

Anyway I'm going to make a topic:

Which album are you currently waiting for? include Artist too.

I myself is waiting for Red man's new album See Red Run

To answer Solids question...some of the albums I'm currently waiting for are:
Shawnna's
Nas
...and Eminem's :twisted:

you sure are a fan for Shawnna :P And Em..pfft...Encore will be a hit...Hell yeah, theres just something about female rappers(especially Shawnna, and Trina)that I like.

Another album I'm waiting for is Snoop Dogg. :twisted:

[Air Grady]

Em is too mainstream now...his old tracks are good. The albums I want are Fabolous, Nas, and Game. Games this new guy from G-Unit, whos better than the whole group, from Compton.

[BloodKnight]

G..G..G..G..G..G..G..G-UNIT sucks!!! :twisted:
I really don't like anyone from the G-unit , except 50(barely). I think Young Buck, and Lloyd Banks are sh*t.

[Tetsu.]

G..G..G..G..G..G..G..G-UNIT sucks!!! :twisted:
I really don't like anyone from the G-unit , except 50(barely). I think Young Buck, and Lloyd Banks are sh*t.

50cent=A mtV puppet(Was a hitt in the begining but now he is forgotten)
Lloyd Banks=thinks he is a papiChulo(a ladie's killer)
Yuck Buck=his two latest songs are stupid
Game=N/A(haven't herd him spit. However he is in every video, making him annyoing .just like P. diddy does..lol)

[Air Grady]

50 Cent sucks, Buck sucks, Banks is alright, and Game is good. SolidSnake, they are all in each others videos, at least sometimes they arent, unlike P Diddy who has to be everywhere...

[Tetsu.]

50 Cent sucks, Buck sucks, Banks is alright, and Game is good. SolidSnake, they are all in each others videos, at least sometimes they arent, unlike P Diddy who has to be everywhere...

Call me Snake dude :wink: Though I have to agree with you there. Unlike Game ETC. When P. Diddy is another video which is not in the Bad Boy company he is always Advertising and dancing along with Mr. Bently. For me 50 cent is going to end up like P. diddy. U_U meh 50 is dead...no one dosen't know he hasen't made a track for 8 months...he was just another puppet for MTV's pleasure

[Saru]

yo i wouldnt mind joining the hip hop clan either.
Jins album drops tommoro i already listened to some of it tho. Its dope. i suggest that to all of you. especially if you havent heard Jin before.

[Prod]

Well from G-Unit I like Tony Yayo more than the others... he just sounds better then the others, shame he's locked up.

An album i'm currently waiting for? Nas - Streets Disciple can't wait for it. :)

What about tracks that you currently like at the moment?

Nas - Bridging the Gap

Dilated Peoples ft. Kanye West - This Way (A few months old I know but I'm still loving it.)

Oh and thanks for letting me join :D

[IcareAlot]

My current fave rap track is Nas/Jadakiss - "Why" and yes Thiefs Theme is pretty good too. I'm also looking forward to his new album.

Only reason G-unit have a recording contract is because of 50 cents. Same reason D12 are allowed on the airwaves, cept its because of Eminem. I loved "Art Of Getting robbed" by 50, but when I hear that track now I just laugh at how much he has sold out, and he's basically doing all the things he "dissed" other successful rappers for doing.

He performed at the Reading festival in the UK in the summer. He got bottled and he got booed. Meh.

[Air Grady]

Well from G-Unit I like Tony Yayo more than the others... he just sounds better then the others, shame he's locked up.


He's out....and Game got signed by Aftermath, which is Dre's label, he is just with the whole G-Unit crap.

Jin's album will be hot, he is a crazy freestyler. I like people who can freestyle more than hot tracks, like Cassidy, though he is in soem hot tracks, unlike Hotel and Get No Better.

[BloodKnight]

No one should diss Mr. Bently.The former silent man is kool and funny. The first time I have ever really heard him say anything is in the remix part of Kanye West video "the New Workout Plan" which I absolutely love. :twisted:

[Air Grady]

Hahaha....yeah....is he supposed to be like a Nerdy rapper? Or is he just trying to get some attention because P. Diddy taught him how? No one will ever know...

[Bone Collecta]

Well from G-Unit I like Tony Yayo more than the others... he just sounds better then the others, shame he's locked up.


He's out....and Game got signed by Aftermath, which is Dre's label, he is just with the whole G-Unit crap.

Jin's album will be hot, he is a crazy freestyler. I like people who can freestyle more than hot tracks, like Cassidy, though he is in soem hot tracks, unlike Hotel and Get No Better.

Game is signed to Aftermath/G-unit records just like 50 is signed to Shady/Aftermath

[WildStar]

When I saw that a hip hop clan was in the works I was expecting you guys to talk about albums and what tracks were good and what wasnt. Things like whether or not this person was on his game or whether this battle was bad etc etc. But I havent seen that and Im kind of dissapointed. :p

No, Im not joining your clan but I wanted to state what I think are worthy hip hop artist.

Common
Tribe Called Quest
Mos Def


Those three groups or artist have always been in my cd player. Multiple records and mix tapes. Thats the style I listen to most.

[Prod]

I heard ATCQ had a reunion album in the works is this true?

Another album i'm anticipating is The Clipse "Hell hath no fury", the first album was good so i'm expecting the same from this one.

Oh and Jin's album should be pretty damn good from some of the stuff I've heard from him.

[Tetsu.]

I agree with Wildstar. Let's make a new topic subject shall we:

What is your opinion of Jay-z's retirment? Good or bad that he is leaving the hip hop commnuinety?

Most people think he is overated. Some think that he did a upgrade on the rap community. Now he is fianlly retiring.(or is he I dunno haven't been in rapmusic news yet =P)I belive that he will remember. he was really diverse. For example, It's a hard knock life was plain good. Then he did big pimpin which was really good.he switched alot his style. to the real hip hop to the club hits :wink:

[Bone Collecta]

Hes really just going to change his name to S.Carter when he comes back to making albums. Hes not really retiring

[Air Grady]

I never really liked Jay, I mean for one reason he has my girl Beyonce(so I guess she isn't mine...) but anyway, I always was more of a Nas fan during their beef, so I always HAD to hate him.

@WildStar: Ah, Mos Def is great...

[Immortal Warrior]

I know I'm a little late in saying but what up yall I'm back in business. Nice to see the underground is up and running.

[Air Grady]

Welcome back, I think I am the newest member of the club so, hey, I am Air Grady.

[Tetsu.]

okay does someone got a topic that we can do?

[Air Grady]

Alright, I do:

Where do you like your hip hop from? East, South, Midwest, West

I would definately say east and west, as they were great from the beginning of Hip Hop, and are still running strong. Most artisits from the Midwest are wack like Chingy, Kwon, etc. The south has some good ones, but not really comparing to East and West.

[Tetsu.]

I'm mostly into eastside hip hop. However if i want to get gangsta rap I'll get artist from the westside. Get clubs hits the durty south. Mid-west nah they only me. >.<

[BloodKnight]

Dirrty South all the way!!! :twisted:
DTP Motha ****ers!!!
Then I'd say Westside Gangsta Rap.
Anyone who raps thats from the North or the East really doesn't appeal to me.



Knuck if you buck!!!

[Bone Collecta]

doesnt matter to me i listen to all regions

[Immortal Warrior]

I don't really know that much bout where it comes from. M&M, 50cent, Nelly, whatever I feel like.

[Cide]

He performed at the Reading festival in the UK in the summer. He got bottled and he got booed. Meh.

Haha yeah, that was beautiful.

Jin is a moron he uses his race as a gimmick to sell records. Maybe, just maybe if he stayed on the battle tip and went underground he would have some respect.

[Bone Collecta]

He performed at the Reading festival in the UK in the summer. He got bottled and he got booed. Meh.

Haha yeah, that was beautiful.

Jin is a moron he uses his race as a gimmick to sell records. Maybe, just maybe if he stayed on the battle tip and went underground he would have some respect.

no that was the label that did that

[Cide]

It's the same thing, being somebodies lapdog.

[Air Grady]

Who cares...Jin spits fire in freestyles and battles, and thats what matters, like with Eminem, LL, etc.

[Cide]

I don't care at all if he wants to exploit his race though music. I'm only telling you what I think of him.

[Doujin]

hehe, this forum is interesting, i wanna join this.... can u ppl rap, i could i would put it inn here but its got loads uf cuss in it i might get chuked out of AF...

[Bone Collecta]

i could rap if i wanted but im more the business man

[Tetsu.]

hey you guys do you think that rappers are born with spitting(freestyle)or they train ETC.

I mean I know I can't Spit(freestyle) However, I always wonder how rappers like Jay-Z can't write thier music.

[Cide]

What do you mean?

Jay Z writes his own lyrics, he also wrote for Dr Dre and others at certian points of their careers. No one is born with the ablity to freestyle.. as in rhyme off the head, it takes practise and it pays off.

[Tetsu.]

What do you mean?

Jay Z writes his own lyrics, he also wrote for Dr Dre and others at certian points of their careers. No one is born with the ablity to freestyle.. as in rhyme off the head, it takes practise and it pays off.

Oh, Cause I remeber he used to say that he never write his lyrics ETC. the ppl that work with him also say that. Damn I'm So Naive :(

[Cide]

Jus Allah - Reign Of The Lord. Check it out.

Prolific Lyricism...


faceless, ageless, shapeless
mind elevates into states i'm weightless
spines shake when they in the wake of greatness (dopest line EVER)
an animal
youre more afraid of me, than i am of you
black hannibal, untangible
a great mind, created divine by satans design
snakes spine, devil's frankenstein
you think it's just simple words? you get your temples surged
get your mental purged, knock the life out your central nerves
there aint a death i dont deserve
there aint even a fit punishment for me to serve
my only need is L's to cook, i only read spell books
i decorate my room to imitate how HELL LOOKS

Definatly check out that song, some of the illest lyrics I ever heard. Jus Allah, he hates all people. He hates all races. He even hates YOU.

[Prod]

Jus Allah - Reign Of The Lord. Check it out.

Prolific Lyricism...


faceless, ageless, shapeless
mind elevates into states i'm weightless
spines shake when they in the wake of greatness (dopest line EVER)
an animal
youre more afraid of me, than i am of you
black hannibal, untangible
a great mind, created divine by satans design
snakes spine, devil's frankenstein
you think it's just simple words? you get your temples surged
get your mental purged, knock the life out your central nerves
there aint a death i dont deserve
there aint even a fit punishment for me to serve
my only need is L's to cook, i only read spell books
i decorate my room to imitate how HELL LOOKS

Definatly check out that song, some of the illest lyrics I ever heard. Jus Allah, he hates all people. He hates all races. He even hates YOU.

I'll be sure to check that out that was excellent.

Hey anyone heard of the Jay-Z and Linkin Park collaboration?

[Cide]

Is it a song or another mix of the Black Album?

[Prod]

From what i've heard it's a Black Album mash-up with Meteroa sounds ok though.

http://www.linkinpark.com/index.php

www.lpjz.com

Both links have samples from the album

[Saru]

yo hookz me up wit a membership to this club :P

[Air Grady]

Well from G-Unit I like Tony Yayo more than the others... he just sounds better then the others, shame he's locked up.


He's out man...got out a few weeks ago.

In G-Unit, they either have pretty hot songs, are pretty bad songs. They all can be good, and all can be bad. Most people diss Young Buck, but he's got some pretty nice flow...

[Prod]

Well from G-Unit I like Tony Yayo more than the others... he just sounds better then the others, shame he's locked up.


He's out man...got out a few weeks ago.

In G-Unit, they either have pretty hot songs, are pretty bad songs. They all can be good, and all can be bad. Most people diss Young Buck, but he's got some pretty nice flow...

Yeah you told me that a page ago...

Heard the mix of Numb and Dirt of ya shoulder on Kerrang radio the other day and it aint that hot.

[BloodKnight]

Ok I have a question for all of you:

What are the best collaborations between artist that you've heard, or what artists do you think would collaborate together well.

[Bone Collecta]

Nas and AZ

[Cide]

Nas and AZ

Yes.

Big Pun & Fat Joe
Jus Allah aka Megatraum and Ikon The Verbal Hologram
Redman & Method Man
Biggie & Method Man
Cage Kennylz & Tame One

[Tetsu.]

red Man &method man
Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre
Tupac and Bone Thugs.(if that counts.)

[Prod]

Immortal Techniuqe and Diabolic
Nas and AZ
Snoop and Dre (Snoop needs to get away from Pharrell man)
Red and Meth (Blunt brothers man..)

And that's all I can think of at the moment.

[Tetsu.]

Note: Hey BoneCollecta...Do you still have that banner of the Undergorund in your computer? If so upload and pm me.

If we do not have the banner we was soppse to have(damn that cheap Image hosting.)then Could someone make one?

anyway topic for the meantime:
What makes rapper a hip hop legend?

[Cide]

Dropping enjoyable albums from start to end. Classics. There are not many.

[Doujin]

wat ar we all takin about???

[Doujin]

[color=darkblue]has any one considered of making a club banner???[/colour]

[Prod]

Dropping enjoyable albums from start to end. Classics. There are not many.

Very very true.

I have considered making a hip-hop clan banner but my photoshop skills are crap and the resulting banner would look like an emu had threw up on the boards.

Also can anyone tell me the meaning of Backpack rap?

*EDIT* O.D.B Rest in Peace...

[Tetsu.]

oh yes. Anyway Since this is a hip hop clan(and for hip hop likers only.)

R.I.P. Old dirt bag.

He had so much chracter. he was a great musician. . I was actually amzazed when i herd the radio saying the ODB. And wasen't he a father?
Damn I really feel bad for his familiy.

R.I.P. Russell Jones

[Cide]

Dropping enjoyable albums from start to end. Classics. There are not many.

Very very true.

I have considered making a hip-hop clan banner but my photoshop skills are crap and the resulting banner would look like an emu had threw up on the boards.

Also can anyone tell me the meaning of Backpack rap?

*EDIT* O.D.B Rest in Peace...

There is no such thing as "backpack rap" its just a term people with little to no knowlege call underground rappers. It's usualy referd to groups and artists who write obsucre lyrics, like Aesop Rock or Cannibal Ox because a majority of their fans are graffiti artists with backpacks.

There is a defintition of what narrow mided suburban kids think backpack rap is.

"anything thats not gangsta and played on mtv is backpacker rap"

[Tetsu.]

You know what is so damn sad. Ignorant people Diss rap/hip hop because of the some crap they air in MTV. they think that rap is about *****es and hoes and blah,blah, blah and blah. They should Shut the **** up and listen to some real rap. not that chingy,nelly ETC. :roll:

Doujin yes someone is going to make a banner. However, I have no idea what our banner should be about. Also, we used to have a good one but I forgot to save it in my photobucket album so it got deleted when my computer was coming from recovery.Bone collecta should had a copy
of the banner. But he hasen't been here for awhile

[BloodKnight]

Idk. I guess droppin' hott songs that people will never forget, and has a kickass beat to it. Like almost every song off "The Chronic". :twisted:

[Tetsu.]

Alright people Here is the club banner(the original one.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/SolidSnake021/5v85c.gif

anyways I'm going to put it in the first page. :wink:
BTW: Thanks Bone Collecta :)

[Bone Collecta]

no prob 8)

[Architecture]

I have been a fan of hip hop since I was 12, started with the beastie boys. Later on grew out of them and now am experimenting and warping hip-hop into new genres. Here's a genre Im thinking of creating.

ACID-Hop: A form of Hip Hop in which is rapped over squechy synths and old school drum machines. ranges from 110-150 BPM

[Prod]

Dropping enjoyable albums from start to end. Classics. There are not many.

Very very true.

I have considered making a hip-hop clan banner but my photoshop skills are crap and the resulting banner would look like an emu had threw up on the boards.

Also can anyone tell me the meaning of Backpack rap?

*EDIT* O.D.B Rest in Peace...

There is no such thing as "backpack rap" its just a term people with little to no knowlege call underground rappers. It's usualy referd to groups and artists who write obsucre lyrics, like Aesop Rock or Cannibal Ox because a majority of their fans are graffiti artists with backpacks.

There is a defintition of what narrow mided suburban kids think backpack rap is.

"anything thats not gangsta and played on mtv is backpacker rap"

Ah thanks for that it's been on my mind for a while I kept hearing people say "I only like "Backpack-rap blah blah blah"


You know what is so damn sad. Ignorant people Diss rap/hip hop because of the some crap they air in MTV. they think that rap is about *****es and hoes and blah,blah, blah and blah. They should Shut the f*** up and listen to some real rap. not that chingy,nelly ETC.

So true it annoys when people dismiss rap as music genre,and when they say "It's just talking **** over a beat" when they probably can't even freestyle themselves or write decent lyrics themselves. :cry:


ACID-Hop: A form of Hip Hop in which is rapped over squechy synths and old school drum machines. ranges from 110-150 BPM

This sounds interesting let me know how it goes.

Also good job on the banner Bone Collecta.

[Tetsu.]

I have been a fan of hip hop since I was 12, started with the beastie boys. Later on grew out of them and now am experimenting and warping hip-hop into new genres. Here's a genre Im thinking of creating.

ACID-Hop: A form of Hip Hop in which is rapped over squechy synths and old school drum machines. ranges from 110-150 BPM

Dude you are God. XD
I never herd such a thing. Who knows you and your crew might be the next big hit. :wink:

[Bone Collecta]

i could make it the next big thing cause i manage. that is if it comes out decent

[Tetsu.]

Hey Ya herd? Dr. Dre Gone in a fight:

http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2004-11-16-vibe-awards_x.htm?POE=LIFISVA


Dr. Dre involved in fight at Vibe Awards
SANTA MONICA, Calif. (AP) — A fight broke out near the stage at the Vibe awards ceremony as rapper Snoop Dogg and producer Quincy Jones were preparing to honor Dr. Dre., and one person was stabbed, authorities and witnesses said.
Dozens of people sitting near the stage Monday inside a hangar at the Santa Monica airport began shoving each other as the show wound down about 7:30 p.m. News video showed chairs being thrown, punches flying, people chasing one another and some being restrained.

It was unclear if the stabbing preceded or followed the fight. The victim, a 26-year-old man, was taken to a hospital and was listed in stable condition.

No arrests were made.

Witness Frank Williams said Dr. Dre was involved in the brawl.

"I saw Dr. Dre fighting somebody," Williams told KCAL-TV. "I don't know if he was fighting back. But there was a guy taken out basically bloodied."

The Los Angeles Times, citing an unnamed associate of Dr. Dre, said the melee broke out as the acclaimed hip-hop producer was sitting at a front-row table waiting to receive the Vibe Legend Award. A man walked up to Dr. Dre's table and punched him, and Dr. Dre's bodyguards went after the man, the associate said.

Dr. Dre was about to join Jones and Snoop Dogg on stage to receive the award for his lifetime contributions to hip-hop. "Come on, your messing up my rap, man," Jones said.

Andrea Ferguson, employed by a public relations firm that worked with Vibe for the second annual awards ceremony, called the incident a "disruption" but declined to provide details. She added the show was allowed to continue but it was halted for about five minutes.

"My understanding is that it was somewhat chaotic in there," police Lt. Frank Fabrega said in a press conference following the fight.

About 1,000 people attended the event; some scurried for the exits when the melee began. The show was taped Monday and was expected to be broadcast on the UPN network Tuesday.

"It's really important that we don't take a negative incident like this and do away with the awards," Suge Knight told reporters.

Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg and the late Tupac Shakur were among the artists signed to Knight's Death Row Records during its height in the early 1990s. After leaving the label, Dr. Dre started the highly successful Aftermath Records, which has signed stars including Eminem.

When Knight was released in 2001 from a five-year prison term for assault and weapons violations, Dr. Dre obtained a court order to keep Knight away from him, The Times said. It was unclear whether the order remained in effect Monday.

Vibe magazine focuses on urban culture and entertainment. The awards are voted on by music journalists and "regional tastemakers." R&B singer Usher led the awards with five nominations, followed by Alicia Keys, who has four nominations.

XD what do you ppl think?

[Cide]

It already exists (the name). Horrorcore aka Acid Rap was inspired by artists like Gravediggaz and Insane Poetry in the 90s. Basically it's horror rap but it never blew up because it's hard to market.

[Prod]

Ah yes Gravediggaz are just amazing.

Yeah I read about that Dr Dre fiasco on the CNN website did you know Young Buck was involved? Apparently he stabbed someone...

[BloodKnight]

Yeah, the LAPD's lookin for him. Bwahahahaha!!! I didn't really like him anyways. :twisted:

[Prod]

Okay people new discussion...

What do you think are the worst rap lyrics you have ever heard?

My nominations would have to be:

"Paradise is very nice" - LL Cool J

and

"You ain't russian so girl why you rushin'? (or something along those lines) - Nelly

Anyone else care to add any?

[Tetsu.]

Son you smell that? What's that?
I smell pussy. Is that you Irv?
I smell pussy. Is that you Ja?
I smell pussy. Is that you Black?
I smell pussy. Is that you Tah?
Y'all *****s is pussy
-50cent

:roll:
do i really have to say it

nuff..said

[Cide]

"…Call me Dennis the menace because I'm such a menace!..."

T3 flops on that....

[Architecture]

By Acid Hop, I mean a fusion of Acid Electronica and Rap. Im a one man team, Beats, sampling, everything. I am cuurently making a rough draft of what would be the first in Acid Hop (not to be confused with Horrorcore). This is hip hop that is very aggresive, and has surreal lyrics. (Like telling the story from a monster who dying, something wierd like that).

for example:
Im coming out of a Lake bed
in Bloodshed, on the wrong meds
Seeing the treds of a red
truck that is stuck
my nerve endings
causing bendings
my own mendings extending
commending that is in turn pretenting
to be rendering to something it is not, and be masked
multitasking turn laxing
and escape is all im asking

just a quick rap i came up with, going to an awkward beat i would be assuming.

[BloodKnight]

I like em black, white, puerto rican or haitian
Japanese, chinese, or even asian
-Chingy

Can you find the problem??? :twisted:

[Cide]

hahaha

[Tetsu.]

I like em black, white, puerto rican or haitian
Japanese, chinese, or even asian
-Chingy

Can you find the problem??? :twisted:


lol
that happens when a pretty boy becomes a rapper :wink:

[Prod]

Ha ha!

"I love you like I love my dick size" - Cappadonna

"YEAH, WHAT" - Lil Jon

[Architecture]

Freestyle

In this time of age
friendship fail and fade
time moves on not going back
in dreamsyou can backtrack
to any time desired
to find things that are inspired

[Tetsu.]

Freestyle

In this time of age
friendship fail and fade
time moves on not going back
in dreamsyou can backtrack
to any time desired
to find things that are inspired

oooh pretty ill lyrics you got there GGP :wink:

[Architecture]

actually, its was 10 percent complete, I had to go to the dinner table, lol

From this time onward
my mind moves forward
towards the award
that tells you "you succeeded in the race"
steady pace is what it takes
to arrive at that mile steak
comtemplation is one of the things still in place
whatever you do dont make haste
for if you go too strong to long
surely you die young.

[Architecture]

Anyone ever hear of Prefuse 73? Its is an essental listen for us underground Hip-hop peoples. you can describe this as when Aphex twin meet Dj Shadow, and make a track together. That is the description I'd give it.

[PoeticGamerLP]

I like em black, white, puerto rican or haitian
Japanese, chinese, or even asian
-Chingy

Can you find the problem??? :twisted:


Ah man me and my friends were getting on that too. I am glad someone else noticed it too. How about this one.

When we be up in the club we be post in the back
When we be IN the club all the girls go to the back.
-L.L. Cool J-

[Prod]

Hey there people.

How are things? Has anyone picked up Rhythm and Gangta : The Masterpiece yet?

[BloodKnight]

Nope. Is it out today???Anyways HELL YEA!!! I'm gonna get it. :twisted:

[Prod]

I saw it advertised alot over here so im guessing that it's out.

Anyone have anynews on The Streets Disciple release date? I know its got a Theifs Theme freestyle with a UK rapper as a bonus track.

[Tetsu.]

hey I got a new topic.
Which rappers has lost thier touch since the 90's?

For me they are
Ice Cube
Snoop dogg(what happen to 'ain't nothing but a g thang' Songs)
Jay-z
Eminem

so how about ya?

[Cide]

Man, what HAPPENED to Xzibit, he used to be so....so cooool. Now hes a corporate shill. Hawking everything from deoderant to 'pimped out rides'. What happened to my old Xzibit, the Three Card Molly Xzibit, the Paparazzi Xzibit, the ALKOHOLIK Xzibit.

Come back to me.

Same with Meth

[BloodKnight]

hey I got a new topic.
Which rappers has lost thier touch since the 90's?

For me they are
Ice Cube
Snoop dogg(what happen to 'ain't nothing but a g thang' Songs)
Jay-z
Eminem

so how about ya?

Eminem has lost his touch since the 90's. WTF he wasn't even around until the end of '99.

Anyways, I think Snoop Dogg has lost a little bit of his spark, but he is still one of the best. :twisted:

[Tetsu.]

Eminem has lost his touch since the 90's. WTF he wasn't even around until the end of '99.

Anyways, I think Snoop Dogg has lost a little bit of his spark, but he is still one of the best. :twisted:

He has been a rapper since 97..I think I don't remember. XD

[Cide]

Eminem's first album 'Infinite' came out in 1995.

[BloodKnight]

He has...oh sorry then. Was it some underground stuff. I'll guess I'll have to check it out. :twisted:

[Cide]

He has...oh sorry then. Was it some underground stuff. I'll guess I'll have to check it out. :twisted:

Yea... It's dope. Just download it, it's not sold anymore

http://thugradio.net/eminem-infinite-cover.jpg

Here's a fun fact for peeps who own Slim Shady LP. Eminem and one of my favorite indy artists, 'Cage' had beef, he claimed Em stole his style.

'Cause when I drop this solo sh*t it's over with
I bought Cage's tape, opened it, and dubbed over it'


http://img95.exs.cx/img95/364/7111.jpg

Cage.

[Prod]

Yeah I noticed that on the Slim Shady LP too man that album is great.

Snoop has definitely lost his touch "Drop it like its hoooooooot" I hate that song.

LL Cool J

And like Cide said Xzibit damn what happened?

And that's all I can think of at the moment.

[Architecture]

Like I say, time to move on. There needs to be some serious revamping in the whole hip-hop community. That is why im experimenting with the basics of hip-hop and mixing it with other genres that would be a no-no in the mainstream hip-hop community such as Acid Techno. Mix that with hip hop, you got a freaking fresh sound that no one has ever heard before.

In alot of ways, hip-hop is electronica. It is made with electronic equipment, made with synths, made with drum machines, which are the standard tools for everything electronica and more. The only real difference is that hip-hop is slower usually and has beat poetry to it, that is all that separates hip-hop from techno or electro.

back to the topic

I never follow big trends, i might be inspired by, but I usually bring my own whimsy into the mix. Like Afrika Bambatta said, hip-hop is all about spreading knowledge through beat poetry, that is exactly what im going to do. Meaningful lyrics, with a style never heard before.

I will be posting the links to the songs I make, so you cats can check it out.

[Prod]

Sweet I'm interested in your project GGP.

I got some news for you all.

Apparently Nas and Busta are getting together to form a band!

Nas is on keys and Busta is on drums. Information was provided by my teletext so unfourtunately I don't have a link but Nas is meant to be serious about it.

[Tetsu.]

That cool ganggreekpolio. what is the name of the crew that is helping you?


Nas is on keys and Busta is on drums. Information was provided by my teletext so unfourtunately I don't have a link but Nas is meant to be serious about it.

haha that great. I love Busta and Nas is cool too. is it just them two, or other artist will be in the band too?

[Architecture]

The project is called Archetecture. And im pretty much a one man band. I make the beats and write the flows.

I will probably be featuring quite a few collaborations with it as well.

[Tetsu.]

The project is called Archetecture. And im pretty much a one man band. I make the beats and write the flows.

I will probably be featuring quite a few collaborations with it as well.

Then May I ask you a question? Is producing beats are really hard? you know you got to get the bass ETC. Or does it depend on the the equipment you got?

[Architecture]

it really depends, if you want to do some really insane aphex twin/autechre stuff, then yea, even for me, that gets really time consuming. for that stuff, you need extensive sequencing of beats.

for everything else, its cake walk. Most of the beats heard in hip-hop are not done live at all, its all sequenced (Akai MPC 2000XL). for alot of the leads in hip-hop, those are done with synthesizers and stuff (Minimoog, MS2000, Virus KC).

now to make the beats, it is simple once you learn. For like 100 dollars used, you can get one heck of a drum machine called the Electribe R-1 made by Korg. What is soo cool about that one is you can MAKE your own drum sounds with the tone-generators(Extreamly powerful as-well). and sounds FAT!

http://www.vintagesynth.org/korg/etr.jpg
What is also another plus is the step sequencer, which is the bottom 16 pads on the drum machine. hint, if you want to see how it all works out, put a bass drum every 4 steps (1,5,9,13), and from there, you can do all the crazy experimentation you want.

if you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

[Prod]

That cool ganggreekpolio. what is the name of the crew that is helping you?


Nas is on keys and Busta is on drums. Information was provided by my teletext so unfourtunately I don't have a link but Nas is meant to be serious about it.

haha that great. I love Busta and Nas is cool too. is it just them two, or other artist will be in the band too?

Don't know for sure but I think its just Nas and Busta.

Oh and an ODB mixtape will be out soon.

[Funkmasta Zeph]

Oh I'll be joining this with out a seconds thought.

[Baku]

I cant wait till Pacs new album is released. I find it amazing how much unreleased material he recorded before he died. Should be something to look forward to.

[Cide]

Eminem makes barnum and bailey circus beats for dancing bears and clowns.

[IcareAlot]

The new Nas and Busta Rhymes collabo, "Suicide Bounce" — from the November 30 release Street's Disciple — has already leaked to mixtapes (Nas also has a banger with Ludacris called "Virgo" out on the streets as well). As the "half man, half amazin' " tells it, there is a lot more to come. He and Bussa Bus are talking about joining for a supergroup, but think more in the vein of the Roots than the Firm.
http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread/threadid/89572

Acid hip hop? Can't wait to see how that turns out.


Which rappers has lost thier touch since the 90's?

How about, which 90's rappers haven't sold out/suck yet? Would make my list a hellava lot shorter.

I'm still waiting for that Nas album to drop. *listens to "Bridge The Gap" AGAIN*.

[Prod]

Yeah i'm waitiing for Street's Disciple too.

Ah and more news on the Nas and Busta collaboration very nice.

90's rappers that don't suck at the moment:

Nas, Outkast, Guru, Wu-Tang Clan, Beastie Boys.

Thats all I can think of at the moment, i'll try and get some more up later.

[Cide]

I haven't listened to anything new from Wu in a while. I bought/stole everything they came out with since 36 Chambers, to Forever... and all the solo projects, Gravediggaz, Killarmy stuff, then they fell off.

[Prod]

Ah yes GraveDiggaz blew me away when I first heard Diary of A Madman, didn't one of them die? Poetic was it?

[Cide]

Yea, Too Poetic/Grym Reaper

Last Emperor & Poetic - One Life. His last song before his demise due to colon cancer.

Diary of a Madman is one of the greatest tracks ever.

[Bone Collecta]

I might get that new TI soon

[Architecture]

Your talkin about the ACCESS TI? Those things are HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bone Collecta]

ummm no as in TI aka the king of the south aka rubber band man

[Prod]

Heh heh...


Fat Joe has told reporters that his old crew, Diggin' in the Crates, is working on a new LP. D.I.T.C. also features Lord Finesse, Showbiz and Buckwild, among others.
as for his solo album, Atlantic Records has decided to push the release of the Terror Squad leader's album, Things of That Nature, back to early next year.

"We feel ['Take Me Home'] is gonna be a major, major hit, so I didn't want to have my album out at the same time and compete against ourselves," the rapper said. "So we just pushed it back to the first week in February."


What do you think? D.I.T.C. had some good stuff.

[Cide]

Don't get your hopes up... come back albums are generally shi*ty and Joe's been getting progressively weaker after Pun's death.

[Prod]

Oh yeah Joe has steadily gotten crapper and crapper over the years.

Speaking of comebacks Ma$e's new stuff ain't so good.

Other rap news:

Apparently 50 Cent's first single "Disco Inferno" from his upcoming album is produced by Dre and is meant to be horrible, no good rhymes and no dope samples, nothing to take seriously.

And Commons "I used to love H.E.R." is being re-issued.

[Bone Collecta]

i disagree i think Fat Joe is good, u hear that NY,NY song? his verse is hot

[Prod]

Nah I haven't heard it yet, but i've had a few people coming up to me telliing me that its a hot track.

[Tetsu.]

i disagree i think Fat Joe is good, u hear that NY,NY song? his verse is hot

yeah it made by Ja-rule(OMFG no more pop rap XD) Jadakiss and Fat Joe.
Fat Joe was good in it. However, the lean back remix...I didn't like it much.

[Prod]

Yeah the Lean Back remix is horrible, Eminem's voice does not suit a Lil Jon beat.

[Tetsu.]

anyone one of you ever herd of regeeturn(SP?) is hispanic rap. If you
never herd it or don't understand what they saying. you are lucky bastrads. I myself am Hispanic. And you know I was kinda happy that my fellow latinos/latinas are in more in the hip hop community. However I herd some songs. And I was disgusted. Holy crap this is like ying yang twins in Spanish(sorry Bloodknight.) all they talked about is sex, women....and thats it. And daddy Yankee should STFU...cause he getting in my nervs >:-|

[Immortal Warrior]

Wow. Lots of crap out right now. Eminem hasn't had a good album since 8Mile if you ask me.

[Cide]

Ohh, I finaly bought Shabazz the Disciple(Gravediggaz) - Book of Shabazz (Hidden Scrollz) and I am not disappointed.

Hip Pop

It seems every man wanna be a pop star
It's obvious to me that you forgot who you are
These labels will have you wearing high heels and a bra
Cut the roots to ya tree and watch ya empire fall
Now hip hop is a tree, and trees live by their roots
All the roots live underground, water down me no salute
They pimping the culture, the same vulture who stole ya agriculture
My vocab is ultra, I insult ya or nurture ya sculpture

Go buy it.

[Prod]

On his new album, Street's Disciple, Nas commands your attention: He forces you to hit the rewind button a few times before his verses are finished, then makes you ask the person nearest to you, "Did you hear that?" There's plenty of fodder for discussion stored within his double-disc set, which came out on Tuesday.

A track that has everyone talking is disc one's "These Are Our Heroes" (released to the streets with the title "Coon Picnic") on which Nas raps, "Let's hear it, one for the coons on UPN 9 and WB who 'yes massa' on TV/ Whatever happened to Weezy, the Red Foxxes who never got Emmys but were real to me?"

O.J. Simpson, Taye Diggs and Tiger Woods are among those he lashes out at. NBA star Kobe Bryant, however, catches most of the heat on the record, being called out by name and compared to Toby from the miniseries "Roots."

"You can't do better than that?/ The hotel clerk who adjusts the bathroom mat?" Nas says in his verses, referencing Bryant's much-publicized criminal charge for sexual assault in Colorado. "You beat the rap, jiggaboo, fake n---a you, you turn around then you sh-- on Shaq."

Nas recently said he was contemplating releasing the song as a single but did not know if media outlets would be able to embrace it.

"It's a fun record," Nas insisted. "I pick out certain guys that's heavy in the media who — whether they're athletes, rappers, whatever — I think [they're] cooning. I don't know if radio and TV are ready for those images, but they should be, because that's what hip-hop is."

A song that Nas is almost sure he will release in the near future is "Virgo," with Ludacris and Doug E. Fresh. The song has already made its way onto mixtapes.

"That joint was fun," he said. "Doug E. Fresh is one of the greatest entertainers and one of the guys I looked up to. Ludacris is witty, fun and one of the tightest lyricists out there. All of us are cool, and one of the main reasons is we share the same sign.

"Doug does the beat box on the record," he continued, "so it reminds you of a Slick Rick, 'La Di Da Di'-style [song]. On 'La Di Da Di,' Slick Rick was having fun talking about this girl he bumped into. It's vulgar, it's funny, and Ludacris brings that effect to it. Being a fan of Slick Rick, I bring that Slick Rick/ New York vibe to it."

Nas said he and Fresh originally did the song together but decided to ask Ludacris to join the collaboration because he and Luda had been talking about working on another song (the two first rapped together on Nas' "Made You Look" remix) — and because Cris is a Virgo.

"Our birthdays are close to each other," Nas said. "We've been talking about doing a birthday party together, and this song is like a party on wax."

Another major collaborator on Street's Disciple is Busta Rhymes. He laid down the chorus for "Suicide Bounce," a song which also features newcomer Quan (Quan, an MC from VA, is the man Nas says he's passing the baton to as the new hot MC on "Just a Moment").

" 'Suicide Bounce' is based off when you feel pressured and you feel like you can't take it, but you're not dumb enough to take your life," Nas said. "You feel like you want to do something to somebody, you just wanna go off. The energy of the record is to keep you going, push you forward, keep you bouncing instead of calling it quits. Busta Rhymes is on the hook, and he brings the energy. It felt like 'Hate Me Now.' "

Love and hate are the themes of "War," which Nas calls his most personal record on the double opus.

" 'War' is [about] my baby-mama drama," he said. " 'War' talks about when my daughter was born and me first being on the scene with stardom. It kinda went to my head. Me and her mom were young. It just shows what happens to the household when we run and speed into things. I don't really wanna blame anybody, even though I did go through extra-crazy scenarios. I still don't point the finger; I'm the bigger man. I think everything is an experience, and I feel you learn from everything. That record got personal because I named the years and dates from where I'm at."

Believe it or not, Nas says it's that style of record that makes him second-guess himself.

"You lay the record down, and then you don't want nobody to hear it," he said. "[You ask], 'Are they going to judge me?' After it's laid, I'm scared, and I don't want the record to come out. I'm like, 'Let's change it.' It's too late by then. But I say forget it and just let it be out."

Nas admits he's a little weird. Luckily he has two soul mates, his fiancee, Kelis, and his child, Destiny, to help keep him sane.

"They're my therapists," he said. "I'm a tortured, torn, insane guy. They make me feel great."

Kelis, who appears twice on the album, acted as muse for some of his rhymes. "She was there for a lot of it," Nas said. "She helped me out on two songs — just [her] talking to me inspired me."

For a look at the recording of Street's Disciple, check out the feature "Nas: A Fire Inside."

Credit: Shaheem Reid, with reporting by Curtis Waller and Bridget Bland
Photo: Sony for MTV News

What y'all think?

[Cide]

Nas is the man... always was. I remember hearing Suicide Bounce, it's ight. Somehow I always get disappointed when he drops an album, just because it's not up to par with Illmatic. I will purchase regardless.

[Bone Collecta]

plzzz Streets Disciple is a classic

[Prod]

Streets Disciple is on my christmas list hopefully its all good.

[Bone Collecta]

just got TI- urban legend

[Doujin]

well dude i like the new banner. but i cant put it in my signature... said knukles...

[spydawebb]

I wanna join too!>< heh I gotta tell FF about this..
oh and here are a couple of freestyles they are kinda old tho...
yo yo
Cheers is what we say when we toast a few beers always stayin sober haven't got drunk in a few years
I try not to get wasted the beer I tasted is kinda bitter
made my stomach hurt and I spent the night on the s***er
I got a sip of the new hard liquor
stuff is addictive makes u hit the bar quicker
so untill I pass out and cain't spit nomore
u gon always see me at the liquor store


yo I'm chillin wit lee
Sensei is actin like he gotta pee
Lee's puttin th moves on Sakura-chan
Sayin stuff like who da man
after he stuffed Sasuke in a trash can
His combination of eimination
gave Sakura no hesitation
to dig Sasuke out the trash
While me and Naruto laugh
It's just anotha day chillin wit lee
someone post a freestyle next who's it gonna be?

[Bone Collecta]

well dude i like the new banner. but i cant put it in my signature... said knukles...

y dont u take out one of the others u have?

and ya you ppls can join

[spydawebb]

it's coo but it may be hard for him to let go of the homemade matrix sig he has right now. Is that guy supposed to be dodging the bullets? No offense to anyone.

[Prod]

News for y'all.

+ Outkast have launched a new label called Purple, and have recently signed fellow Georgian rapper Bubba Sparxxx to release his third album.

+ Common is said to be addressing some serious adult topics on his forthcoming album. He has also authoured a children's book for release next year.

+ New Jersey rappers I.O.F. (It's Only Family) have recorded a diss track aimed at Ludacris and Kanye West claiming that they stole their music,

+ Mos Def's track The Rape Over has been pulled from pressings of The New Danger following complaints about anti-gay content.

+ Cam'ron has announced his departure from Def Jam after meeting with LA Reid, the label's CEO, who granted the rapper with contractual release.

+ Guru of Gangstarr has revealed plans to launch a new label called 7 Grand. The first project will be called Guru 7.0 the rapper's second indie solo venture. Also Guru's now finishing his fourth Jazzmatazz album for 2005 release, but Gangstarr are staying together.

[Sp1k3]

i like
NaS
D12
Lil jon
Dre
snoop dogg
Ludacris
Lloyd Banks
T.I

so can i join?

[Tetsu.]

sure you can join.anyway


+ Mos Def's track The Rape Over has been pulled from pressings of The New Danger following complaints about anti-gay content.

wow. Never knew Mos Def could ever write lyrics like that. anyway great news as always Prod.

[Cide]

i like
NaS
D12
Lil jon
Dre
snoop dogg
Ludacris
Lloyd Banks
T.I

so can i join?

None of them are indy, and Nas and Dre are the only good cats in all that mess of a list.

Mos Def is not a homophobe. But gay (and other) activists are whiney crybabies and see everythin in literal verbatim.

[Immortal Warrior]

Bubba Sparxxx
Did you say Buba Sparxxx? Sweetness!!

[Prod]

sure you can join.anyway


+ Mos Def's track The Rape Over has been pulled from pressings of The New Danger following complaints about anti-gay content.

wow. Never knew Mos Def could ever write lyrics like that. anyway great news as always Prod.

Well I try XD.


Mos Def is not a homophobe. But gay (and other) activists are whiney crybabies and see everythin in literal verbatim.

Exactly that **** pisses me off.

[Doujin]

it's coo but it may be hard for him to let go of the homemade matrix sig he has right now. Is that guy supposed to be dodging the bullets? No offense to anyone.

na ma its cool. i just put him side ways coz i think its betah for the pics...
the bullets jst an extra... i wasn't gonna put the bullet there in the first place..

[Tetsu.]

Bubba Sparxxx
Did you say Buba Sparxxx? Sweetness!!

BS is a rapper I barely remeber him but I do remeber his songs ''ugly''. However ppl make fun of him cause he was a redneck or something. <_<

[Sp1k3]

Cide what are you listening to? T.I- Rubberband Man, LLoyd Banks-Karma, We on Fire those are killer songs and some of the other artists
Snoop Dogg-Drop Like its Hot you say this song sucks than you ain't listening to hip-hop than
what are you listening to?

[Cide]

No that song sucks, Snoop Dogg fell off after Doggystyle. Banks is aggravating with his infantile punches.

Right now I'm listening to "Jedi Mind Tricks - I Against I" download it and revamp your life.

[Gekkou]

Hey i havent posted here before...so hey all :oops:

[Tetsu.]

Cide what are you listening to? T.I- Rubberband Man, LLoyd Banks-Karma, We on Fire those are killer songs and some of the other artists
Snoop Dogg-Drop Like its Hot you say this song sucks than you ain't listening to hip-hop than
what are you listening to?

sorry to say this but.
T.I.- another mainstream rapper
LLoyd Banks- one of 50's cents dickriders
Snoop Dogg- He has ****ing lost his touch :P

[Bone Collecta]

Cide what are you listening to? T.I- Rubberband Man, LLoyd Banks-Karma, We on Fire those are killer songs and some of the other artists
Snoop Dogg-Drop Like its Hot you say this song sucks than you ain't listening to hip-hop than
what are you listening to?

sorry to say this but.
T.I.- another mainstream rapper
LLoyd Banks- one of 50's cents dickriders
Snoop Dogg- He has f***ing lost his touch :P

TI isnt just mainstream commercial type stuff he has his real stuff he just doesnt make videos for em

[Doujin]

wot u on about snoop's the legend.... and so is bob marley!!!!

[Tetsu.]

wot u on about snoop's the legend.... and so is bob marley!!!!

No offense or anything. But I have no idea what you just said right there
anyway thank you Collecta for telling me that info.
anyway Topic:

which were the best years of rap?

the 90's the 80's ETC?

[Prod]

Hey everyone happy holidays and all.

Ah a new topic I was thinking of making one myself but due to laziness/bluntedness I didn't. :P

I think the best years of rap were the 80-90's era, it just feels like artists were putting effort into their songs back then compared to todays standards. I do like some of todays rappers but back in 80-90's everyone seemed cooler, but this is probably because I was new to the game back then.

[Cynical John]

90's 'cause technology advanced while rap still had most of it's messages written in there. This is the way I saw it.

Rap is revolved around story telling and is heavily introduced (80's)
As stories get told over and over people try to find new ways to tell them.(90's)
Once ideas run out it starts to get a little icky. (Present day rap.)

This is why Tupac, Nas, Bone Thugs 'n Harmony, were so good. 'Cause they changed the way messages were sent etc. Take a look at Nas' song, "Rewind".

It's hard to find stuff like that today without having to hear a million punch lines in a song. But if you're interested check out immortal technique.

[Cide]

Nothing to do with lack of ideas, the target group only changed from street kids to rich and middle class kids since hip hop become big business.

[sweetsakura]

Nothing to do with lack of ideas, the target group only changed from street kids to rich and middle class kids since hip hop become big business.

That's not necessarily true, but I think rap has gotten "cool", so they listen to it. ^__^

One of my current favorite artists is Jay-Z. He's had his ups and downs in his mainstream moments, but I think, overall, he's a really good rapper. ^__^

And as for T.I., I heard his CD, and he does have a handful of well-thought out songs. Props to him. ^__^

[Cide]

Sure it's true. Target groups change due to appeal. Suburban kids can't relate to hardcore rap, most wont give it a chance, and conscious hip hop is hard to market. Hence Chingy, Nelly, etcetera.

[Tetsu.]

Sure it's true. Targets groups change due to appeal. Suburban kids can't relate to hardcore rap, most wont give it a chance, and conscious hip hop is hard to market. Hence Chingy, Nelly, etcetera.

Well I remeber every Suburan kids love N.W.A. :P
I dosen't matter really if the lyrics are controversial(or violent) they will love it. I mean look how much ppl love Tupac and Bone thugs cause of there Hardcore rap :wink:

[Prod]

This is why Tupac, Nas, Bone Thugs 'n Harmony, were so good. 'Cause they changed the way messages were sent etc. Take a look at Nas' song, "Rewind".

It's hard to find stuff like that today without having to hear a million punch lines in a song. But if you're interested check out immortal technique.

Ah I love 'Rewind' the way he rapped in that song was a suprise to me.

And Immortal Techniuqe is great.


Well I remeber every Suburan kids love N.W.A. :p
I dosen't matter really if the lyrics are controversial(or violent) they will love it. I mean look how much ppl love Tupac and Bone thugs cause of there Hardcore rap

Yeah but most of those kids only know one N.W.A. song and you know which one it is. :wink:

[Cide]

Sure it's true. Targets groups change due to appeal. Suburban kids can't relate to hardcore rap, most wont give it a chance, and conscious hip hop is hard to market. Hence Chingy, Nelly, etcetera.

Well I remeber every Suburan kids love N.W.A. :P
I dosen't matter really if the lyrics are controversial(or violent) they will love it. I mean look how much ppl love Tupac and Bone thugs cause of there Hardcore rap :wink:

I said MOST. NWA, Pac and Thugs got big before the "jiggy" era, on top they were very talanted. Record companies realised the big money is in clubs, not the kids listening to hardcore sh*t, then mainstream got corny.

[Prod]

Ch-ch-ch check it out! Some news.

+ Footage of ODB's final concert before his death has been sold on eBay for $100,000. According to the seller of the controversial ODB footage, the buyer was MTV, which now has exclusive rights...

+ 50 Cent's new album St. Valentines Day Massacre has been moved a March 8 release date instead of Feb 14, now the title doesn't make much sense. Also on Funk Flex's radio show 50 and Flex were talking about the track 'Piggyback' which has disses aimed at Jadakiss and Fat Joe (For helping Ja on 'New York' as well as Kelis! Claiming she is "Guilty by association, apparently 50 didn't appreciate Nas' intro for his free concert Central Park.
50 claims that "Outta nowhere he jumps at me and becomes anti G-Unit.
Funk was going to play the track but didn't due to the potential impact it could have.

+ Immortal Techniuqe's forthcoming Middle Passage LP features beats from Lord Finesse and Scram Jones.

+ Ghostface and El-P have recorded a collaboration track entitled Hide Your Face for Prefuse 73's new album due in 2005 on Warp Records.

+ MF Doom says he's collaborating with Ghostface. Expect a long wait its been on the cards for years.

+ Daryl "DMC" McDaniels releases his solo debut early 2005. Titled 'Checks, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll' it features singer Sarah McLachlan.

+ The new 'Chronicles of Junia Mafia' DVD is getting lots of attention. Highlights include studio footage of Biggie recording Warning and W.S.Y.

And that's all beeyatches. :wink:

[Tetsu.]

+ 50 Cent's new album St. Valentines Day Massacre has been moved a March 8 release date instead of Feb 14, now the title doesn't make much sense. Also on Funk Flex's radio show 50 and Flex were talking about the track 'Piggyback' which has disses aimed at Jadakiss and Fat Joe (For helping Ja on 'New York' as well as Kelis! Claiming she is "Guilty by association, apparently 50 didn't appreciate Nas' intro for his free concert Central Park.
50 claims that "Outta nowhere he jumps at me and becomes anti G-Unit.
Funk was going to play the track but didn't due to the potential impact it could have.

What the ****? Why He is being Like that. Obviously 50 Dosen't know that Jada and Fat Joe Don't give a **** about the Beef between 50 and Ja. All They doing is making tracks with Ja. For Business and entertainment. thats all. :roll:

[Prod]

What the f***? Why He is being Like that. Obviously 50 Dosen't know that Jada and Fat Joe Don't give a f*** about the Beef between 50 and Ja. All They doing is making tracks with Ja. For Business and entertainment. thats all. :roll:

Well he said it himself didn't he? "I built my career on this beef, I love it!" so he's just gonna keep with the formula and use any means nessecary to carry on the beef, pointless really.

Oh and lovin' the MGS sig you got there.

[spydawebb]

90's 'cause technology advanced while rap still had most of it's messages written in there. This is the way I saw it.

Rap is revolved around story telling and is heavily introduced (80's)
As stories get told over and over people try to find new ways to tell them.(90's)
Once ideas run out it starts to get a little icky. (Present day rap.)

This is why Tupac, Nas, Bone Thugs 'n Harmony, were so good. 'Cause they changed the way messages were sent etc. Take a look at Nas' song, "Rewind".

It's hard to find stuff like that today without having to hear a million punch lines in a song. But if you're interested check out immortal technique.

so true but most rappers that came out in the 80's are still doing it today like tupac and dr.dre. I don't think pac is dead because he is still coming out with albulms...

[IcareAlot]

Yea beef sells records. Also if your gonna blame the current state of hip hop on anyone/thing, direct all your anger at Corporate America. And don't buy into all that sh1t (although it’s practically impossible).


Yeah but most of those kids only know one N.W.A. song and you know which one it is. Wink


Straight Outta Compton or **** The Police......I'm going with the latter.


Right now I'm listening to "Jedi Mind Tricks - I Against I" download it and revamp your life.

The entire Violent By Design album is well worth getting.

My fave era would have to be West Coast early to mid 90's. Loved the
beats and its when I first started listening to rap. Loving the GTA - SA
soundtrack too.

[sweetsakura]

Has anyone heard of a band called Blackalicious? They made my favorite rap album of all time: Blazing Arrow. Also, they did a really awesome CD called Nia. Check them out if ya'll get the chance. ^__^

[IcareAlot]

I prefer Nia although Blazing Arrow is great too. Xcel is a superb producer. Paragraph President, Deception, Reanimation, If I may, Fabulous Ones.....loads. Great pick. Another group I overlooked untill this year.

[Prod]

so true but most rappers that came out in the 80's are still doing it today like tupac and dr.dre. I don't think pac is dead because he is still coming out with albulms...

Pac's dead get over it, these albums are full of remixes and unreleased tracks. And at least two of them are released a year.


My fave era would have to be West Coast early to mid 90's. Loved the
beats and its when I first started listening to rap. Loving the GTA - SA
soundtrack too.

Ah yes me too.

[Cide]

No doubt... the 90s were the illest years, 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Cuban Linx, Ready to Die, classic after classic.

[Tetsu.]

haha right now i'm loving the San Andreas Soundtrack..N.W.A <3
So I love the west coast mid 90's rap.


No doubt... the 90s were the illest years, 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Cuban Linx, Ready to Die, classic after classic.

ahh Cuban Linx they were such a classic..

Edit:
thank you for the compliment prodigy about my sig :wink:

[f001yc001y]

did anyone like the jay-z/LP collision course?

[Tetsu.]

did anyone like the jay-z/LP collision course?

I think it was Alright. I like the Numb/Encore.
However the other tracks...were..meh.

[Cynical John]

I thought it was oooooooook I guess. It really wasn't anything new, just something to listen to a few times and never again. I thought the idea of mixing lyrics was rather uncalled for though. Sometimes you'd hear Jay-Z's lyrics talking about something in the streets then you'd hear LP sing about girl problems etc.

So many LP fans have become former LP fans now because of this (See what mainstream can do to you?). *Shrug* I guess you can safely say there's always a never ending hatred between rap and rock in people because alot of people out there are narrow minded, sadly. I don't dislike any of them though, just thought they could have done a better job for an album.

[IcareAlot]

When rap/rock collaborations are done right the results are ome of the greatest tracks ever. I'm talking about Anthrax/Public Enemy - Bring Da Noise, Run Dmc/Aerosmith - Walk This Way etc. If you want a true rap/rock hybrid band look no further than Rage Against the Machine.

Anyway Collision Coarse apart from a few tracks that a worth a couple of listens as pointed out is god awful. They didn't even try and make a coherent album and I bet most bedroom dj's could do a better job. Shame cuz Mark Shinoda is a decent producer and Jay is a above average rapper.

[Prod]

No doubt... the 90s were the illest years, 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Cuban Linx, Ready to Die, classic after classic.

*High fives Cide*

So true and diss tracks was actuallly entertaining back then.


When rap/rock collaborations are done right the results are ome of the greatest tracks ever. I'm talking about Anthrax/Public Enemy - Bring Da Noise, Run Dmc/Aerosmith - Walk This Way etc. If you want a true rap/rock hybrid band look no further than Rage Against the Machine.

True that.

[IcareAlot]

I got a new topic.

Which rap tracks do you never get tired of? I'm talking about tracks you've heard a million times but they still sound as fresh and great as when you first heard them.

Grand Master Flash - White Lines, The Message
Rappers Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Kurtis Blow - The Breaks
Tribe Called Quest - Can I kick It, Award Tour.
NAS - Most of the Illmatic album.
De La Soul -Me Myself and I.
Slick Rick - Childrens Story
Dead Pes - Hip Hop
Eric B. & Rakim - Let The Rhythm Hit Em
Public Enemy - Bring The Noise, Rebel Without a Pause, Who Stole the Soul, Baseheads
KRS One - Sound Of The Police
Regulate - Warren G/Nate Dogg
No Diggity -Blackstreet/Dre/Foxy
Tupac - Keep Your Head Up, the entire All Eyes On Me album.
NWA - **** The Police, Something Like That, Dopeman, Straight Outta Compton
Run DMC -Tricky, Walk This Way.

I could go on. A tad different to the fave rap song topic. We have had one of those right?.

[Cide]

Any of the tracks on Violent By Design.

Today I am drinking coffee and playing The Executioners Dream OVER AND OVER again.

I go to sleep with one song in my head, and then, like a ****ing cd player or something, it keeps going, and I wake up humming one thats further down the playlist.

Now that sh*t only happens with the special albums.

MC's face terror wherever my sound's audible
Banned from third world portals, battle mortals, and slaughter
you

[PlanetAsia]

Most JMT tracks I could constantly listen to. It's too bad Jus Allah did'nt stay with them. BTW for the JMT fans, what did you think of the new album with the more "muslim jihad vibe"? I'd prefer he keep more with straight music and less on the religous tip.

[Tetsu.]

Song I could listen everytime is
Biggie Juicy
Why? cause it's so amazy on how one poor person could be a star if you still follow your dreams.
Ice CubeIt's a good day
hear the song yourself and you will see :wink:

[Prod]

+Warren G - Regulate
+Big L - Almost all of his songs
+GZA - Liquid Swords
+2Pac - Keep your head up
+Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy
+Gravediggaz - Diary of a Madman
+Blackstar - Definition
+Clipse - Grindin'
+Common - ***** in you and I Used to Love H.E.R.
+A Tribe Called Quest - Scenario, Can I Kick It? and Electric Relaxation

All I can think of at the moment, my brain is the suck at the moment.

[Cide]

Most JMT tracks I could constantly listen to. It's too bad Jus Allah did'nt stay with them. BTW for the JMT fans, what did you think of the new album with the more "muslim jihad vibe"? I'd prefer he keep more with straight music and less on the religous tip.

Yea, Jus Allah was ****ing fantastic. The religious thing is overkill on Legacy Of Blood, but with all the anti muslim sh*t becoming kinda acceptable after 9/11 Paz was pretty pissed off.

[IcareAlot]

I haven't had a proper listen to it yet, but JMT always kinda had an anti judea/Christian stance. Like Cide said its to do with the post 9/11 world we live in right now. If you haven't already, look into Canibus's "Rip The Jacker" album. Stoupe's production really shines.


+Blackstar - Definition

Thats a freakin tune.

[Prod]

Oh another song that never gets old for me is "2nd Round Knockout" by Canibus, man thats a nice track. 8)

[Bone Collecta]

im baaack ppls

I dont get tired of Nas anythin he makes

[Cide]

Oh another song that never gets old for me is "2nd Round Knockout" by Canibus, man thats a nice track. 8)

Ha, I was listening to it when I read this post.

[Prod]

im baaack ppls

I dont get tired of Nas anythin he makes

Welcome back. Yeah Nas is great 'Illmatic' is great too. I could listen to that album every damn day.

[Tetsu.]

I think we need a new topic....
any voulunteers to give us a topic?

[Prod]

New Topic eh?...

Im suprised this one hasn't come about yet but here goes:

How did you first get into the hip-hop scene?

[Tetsu.]

Nice One Prod :wink:

Hmm I got into it Because Where I used to Live Lots of locals always had their rap in full volume :P My Cusins and Sister Also did that. I remeber being in the car and hearing Jay-Z(It's A hard knock life) and Tupac(Dear Momma) I Start getting more interested on rap and stuff....*sigh* good times good times <3.

[Magi Boy 21]

Yo YO YO My name is Magi an i cum to say wut up with the an how are you today PEACE!


I AM NOW THE OFFICAL WORST RAPPER OF ALLLLL TIME!!!1

[Bone Collecta]

I got into rap in the 7th grade when my friend introduced me to music by Big Pun, No limit Soldiers, Tupac, and Bad Boy ppl. Good stuff ive been in love wit it ever since

[sweetsakura]

I know this is a bit random, but does anyone in here bboy (or bgirl ^__~)? If so, what is your favorite song/band/etc. to dance to? ^__^

[Prod]

Weekly news.

+ After serving almost 2 years in prison for a drink-driving offence, Rass Kass was released in December expect new material this year.

+ Put the rumours of Mobb Deep's break up on hold as the duo tour the UK with Alchemist from January 31st.

+ After a dissapointing last album Method Man hopes to win back fans with a new album produced solely by The RZA.

+ Styles P's sophomore album 'Time Is Money' is out in March. Producers include Havoc and Scott Storch.

+ Despite publicly announcing a truce with The Source, Eminem has taken the mag to court for copyright-infringement after it gave away his recordings.

+ Although Heavy D gave the same beat to Black Rob and Beanie Sigel. It is Siegels track 'Feel It In The Air' that will come out first.

+ Kay Slay's latest mixtape features a 25-man posse cut entitled 'Rollin' 25 Deep. Although it doesn't beat the calibre of Tony Touch's 50 MC's classic.

+ Nas has found a disciple named Quan and insists he is the "future of hip-hop.

Thats all for the news.
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Sweetsakura: Ha ha dancing eh? My dancing is terrible and I usually dance under the influence of alcohol but I still dance to have some fun. I like to dance to anything upbeat really and some old electronic tracks from the early days oh and some songs from the Bad Boy label. XD. If it's slow dancing though something like Method Man and Mary J Blige's "All I need".
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Anywho back to the new topic:

I first found out about hip-hop about 10 years ago. When I used to go out to places with my dad he played rap songs on the way, artists such as Wu-Tang Clan, Ice-T, Tupac, Digital Underground and Biggie, and I instantly fell in love with rap.

[Cide]

New Topic eh?...

Im suprised this one hasn't come about yet but here goes:

How did you first get into the hip-hop scene?

I heard Cypress Hill's self titled on tape. I also liked Method Man's - Bring The Pain. That video was cool, I liked whole dark subway thing, it's also one of the first videos I saw that got me into hip hop.

[IcareAlot]

My friends/people in my class. I started out on Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Ski-Lo, De La Soul and then they got me into gansta rap through artists on The Death Row label, Bone Thugs etc. Pacs All Eyes On Me is the first album I bought.

Break dancing? I can't afford to scuff my trainers anymore and I've lost the little skill I had due to inactivity (aka sitting on my ass all day). Old Skool beats was what I used to dance to, Marli Marl, Slick Rick, Run DMC, Rakim etc.

[Sp1k3]

What do you guys think of the new The Game and 50 Cent song?

[Cide]

I don't think about it.

And yeah, breakdancing is ill.

But **** dancing in general.. like at parties and stuff. ANY function that requires or even hints at dancing is ****ing gay. I prefer a bottle of expensive rum and a good book to a night of meathead drunk children and loud music.

Dancing. The **** is that sh*t.

[Prod]

Ha ha ha.

I've always wanted to learn how to breakdance but due to lazyness I can't be pissed.


Old Skool beats was what I used to dance to, Marli Marl, Slick Rick, Run DMC, Rakim etc.

Nice picks you got there. :wink:

[Bone Collecta]

My friends/people in my class. I started out on Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Ski-Lo, De La Soul and then they got me into gansta rap through artists on The Death Row label, Bone Thugs etc. Pacs All Eyes On Me is the first album I bought.

Break dancing? I can't afford to scuff my trainers anymore and I've lost the little skill I had due to inactivity (aka sitting on my ass all day). Old Skool beats was what I used to dance to, Marli Marl, Slick Rick, Run DMC, Rakim etc.

bone thugs was on ruthless records which was eazy-e's label

[IcareAlot]

I meant death row artists and Bone Thugs and Harmony. Didn't know they were on Easy E's label though.


What do you guys think of the new The Game and 50 Cent song?


The musical press over here (UK) are predicting big things for The Game. I haven't heard any of his material yet but I am sitting in front of my computer so recommend some tracks

[Tetsu.]

I herd some good things about Game that his materials are good and Sh!t. If he his not a sellout like 50cent I'll hear him :P :wink:

[Prod]

Yeah I've noticed they have been raving about The Game over here in the UK too.

How is he?

[Tupacalypse7403]

Have yall heard the new pac album Loyal to the game? Its my favorite until another pac album comes out I think it is tight

[Prod]

I've heard 'Loyal To The Game' isn't that good...i'll borrow it from one of my friend or something.

[Sp1k3]

The Game and 50 Cent's song is a song you can't get out of your head "this is how we do " song is addictive. Dizzie Rascal anyone?

[Tupacalypse7403]

I've heard 'Loyal To The Game' isn't that good...i'll borrow it from one of my friend or something.I think that the album is tight. Well proly cz pac is my fav rapper.....

[Tetsu.]

Hey remeber boys and girls. If you going to post here Frequently please pm me to be a official member :).

[Bone Collecta]

we had a hip hop showcase last night at my school it was a great turn out.

[Tetsu.]

we had a hip hop showcase last night at my school it was a great turn out.

How was it dude? bad for me people don't like rap. they like regeeturn ;-;

[Prod]

Ha ha ha you really hate regeeturn don't you Tetsu?


Dizzie Rascal anyone?

Dizzee is ok, Klashnekoff should get as much (if not more) recognition as Dizzee though.

What does every one think of Ghostface?

[sweetsakura]

What does every one think of Ghostface?

I heard that "Push" song. The lyrics are...hehehe. ^__^ But it has AWESOME beats! ^__^

edit: Oh, I forgot to comment on his other songs. "Run" is a good song; I also really like Jadakiss. "Get My Dough" is one my favorites. "Paychecks" is probably one of my least favorites, but I mean, that's not saying much. It's still good, just not my favorite. "Holla" is definitely different from his others (a lot slower).

But musically, "Push" is my favorite. ^__^

[Cide]

Ghost is one of my favorite rappers. He has a wonder woman bracelet which is a major factor.

I has actually broken down and cried on a track before. It's on The W, I think. He's rapping about families and slavery, and rape, and kids dying etcetera, and he just starts mumbling and shouting.

[Prod]

W00t! Ghostface!

The reason I asked this is because I picked up 'Ironman' the other day (yes I know long overdue etc.) and its GREAT!

My favourite track from 'Ironman' is 'Winter Warz' thats a hell of a banger, and Cappadonna's verse is his best one to date.


I heard that "Push" song. The lyrics are...hehehe. ^__^ But it has AWESOME beats! ^__^

Yes! I enjoyed that song.


I has actually broken down and cried on a track before. It's on The W, I think. He's rapping about families and slavery, and rape, and kids dying etcetera, and he just starts mumbling and shouting.

Really? I'll have to check that out for myself, and he does end up going all gibberish at times doesn't he?

[Tetsu.]

Yeah GhostFace Was pretty cool with the Wu-Tang-clan.


I heard that "Push" song. The lyrics are...hehehe. ^__^ But it has AWESOME beats! ^__^

yeah great song to dance too :)

[sweetsakura]

hmm i was thinking something today ^__^

are there any rappers that like anime? i really can't picture it, but im sure there's an exception ^__^

[Tetsu.]

hmm i was thinking something today ^__^

are there any rappers that like anime? i really can't picture it, but im sure there's an exception ^__^

i know this one dude(Won't call him a rapper but he is a Dj) Called Dj Super-natural. I remeber he was freestyling and he said one anime However I forgot the name of it. >>. I think Some of you know him
:P oh and something I want to share:

http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?propertycode=ATL&categorycode=BMG

:o

[Bone Collecta]

we had a hip hop showcase last night at my school it was a great turn out.

How was it dude? bad for me people don't like rap. they like regeeturn ;-;

it was a great show, and i think u mean reggeaton

[Tetsu.]

we had a hip hop showcase last night at my school it was a great turn out.

How was it dude? bad for me people don't like rap. they like regeeturn ;-;

it was a great show, and i think u mean reggeaton

if it's hispanic hip hop then yes you are correct...XD

[Prod]

hmm i was thinking something today ^__^

are there any rappers that like anime? i really can't picture it, but im sure there's an exception ^__^

I can see someone like Biz Markie liking anime, probably because he collects toys and stuff.

I'll have some rap news up tommorow as usual.

[Bone Collecta]

we had a hip hop showcase last night at my school it was a great turn out.

How was it dude? bad for me people don't like rap. they like regeeturn ;-;

it was a great show, and i think u mean reggeaton

if it's hispanic hip hop then yes you are correct...XD

its actually more like spanish reggea

[Prod]

+ J Shadow will be producing Cage's debut album on Definitive Jux. Called 'Hell's Winter', it will feature Daryl Plaumbo of Glassjaw and RJD2.

+ Q-Tip has signed a new deal with Motown after a failed signing with Dreamworks. New tracks have Jaydee on production.

+ Andre 3000's biopic on Jimi Hendrix may be scrapped because the guitarist's estate has forbidden the directors to use music from his archive.

+ Crooked I has been officialy relased from Death Row.


Crooked I Officially Released from Death Row

Having fought numerous personal, legal and political battles in efforts to break free from the contractual constraints of Death Row Records, Crooked I is now officially released and has wasted no time in following through with his vision for himself and West Coast rap. This vision begins with Dynasty Entertainment, Crooked I's creation and catalyst for movement. Signed by Treacherous/Universal, his label has begun its line up of projects.

Crooked I will release a tell-all DVD, "Life After Death Row," about his trials on Death Row Records, dispelling rumors and allegations and allowing the public to see for themselves the trials and tribulations of the rap game. This project is paired with his released mixtape, "Young Boss Vol. One," and his upcoming album, "Momma's Boy... Gotta Loaded Gun," all of which are the artist's means to reaffirm the authenticity behind the name Crooked I.

This patient and level-headed free agent looks at his past years of misfortune as a learning experience and wants to walk away from it all with respect. He is not about the bitterness between West Coast and East Coast rap scenes; his focus is not distracted by the petty back and forth between artists in the rap game, and he holds no hard feelings with his prior label. Instead, Crooked I is using all that he has gained in his ventures to re-establish himself and his own Dynasty. His main goal is to revamp West Coast classic [rap]. Crooked hopes to bring the life experiences back into West Coast music through his albums and allow the little guys, up and coming in the rap game, to take part in this evolution as well.

As his audience grows and his name remains untainted to this day, Crooked I has finally found the right track: "There are a whole lot of different types of music circulating on the West, but only one particular type that's getting the spotlight, so people think that is what the whole West Coast is supposed to be like. That is not true. My album is going to be a West Coast album. It's just gonna have a new flavor on it, 'cause certain people haven't been able to break out. That is what we are trying to do. The whole West is about to get a makeover."

Crooked I has come a long, hard way and is on a launch pad to success. He has his head on straight, looking onward and upward, his misfortunes in the past, solo projects on deck and hot new talent under his wing. He has found within himself the ability to remain focused, driven, and now it is time; it is his turn. The dues have been paid, and he has his eyes on the prize.

+ And Nas and Kelis are now married

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And a new topic:

Who is your favourite freestyler? I mean the ones who do proper freestyles such as Supernatural and Craig G.

[Sp1k3]

hmm i was thinking something today ^__^

are there any rappers that like anime? i really can't picture it, but im sure there's an exception ^__^

there is a rapper inb Samuri Champloo made by the Cowboy Beebop creators

[Tetsu.]

+ J Shadow will be producing Cage's debut album on Definitive Jux. Called 'Hell's Winter', it will feature Daryl Plaumbo of Glassjaw and RJD2.

+ Q-Tip has signed a new deal with Motown after a failed signing with Dreamworks. New tracks have Jaydee on production.

+ Andre 3000's biopic on Jimi Hendrix may be scrapped because the guitarist's estate has forbidden the directors to use music from his archive.

+ Crooked I has been officialy relased from Death Row.


Crooked I Officially Released from Death Row

Having fought numerous personal, legal and political battles in efforts to break free from the contractual constraints of Death Row Records, Crooked I is now officially released and has wasted no time in following through with his vision for himself and West Coast rap. This vision begins with Dynasty Entertainment, Crooked I's creation and catalyst for movement. Signed by Treacherous/Universal, his label has begun its line up of projects.

Crooked I will release a tell-all DVD, "Life After Death Row," about his trials on Death Row Records, dispelling rumors and allegations and allowing the public to see for themselves the trials and tribulations of the rap game. This project is paired with his released mixtape, "Young Boss Vol. One," and his upcoming album, "Momma's Boy... Gotta Loaded Gun," all of which are the artist's means to reaffirm the authenticity behind the name Crooked I.

This patient and level-headed free agent looks at his past years of misfortune as a learning experience and wants to walk away from it all with respect. He is not about the bitterness between West Coast and East Coast rap scenes; his focus is not distracted by the petty back and forth between artists in the rap game, and he holds no hard feelings with his prior label. Instead, Crooked I is using all that he has gained in his ventures to re-establish himself and his own Dynasty. His main goal is to revamp West Coast classic [rap]. Crooked hopes to bring the life experiences back into West Coast music through his albums and allow the little guys, up and coming in the rap game, to take part in this evolution as well.

As his audience grows and his name remains untainted to this day, Crooked I has finally found the right track: "There are a whole lot of different types of music circulating on the West, but only one particular type that's getting the spotlight, so people think that is what the whole West Coast is supposed to be like. That is not true. My album is going to be a West Coast album. It's just gonna have a new flavor on it, 'cause certain people haven't been able to break out. That is what we are trying to do. The whole West is about to get a makeover."

Crooked I has come a long, hard way and is on a launch pad to success. He has his head on straight, looking onward and upward, his misfortunes in the past, solo projects on deck and hot new talent under his wing. He has found within himself the ability to remain focused, driven, and now it is time; it is his turn. The dues have been paid, and he has his eyes on the prize.

+ And Nas and Kelis are now married

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And a new topic:

Who is your favourite freestyler? I mean the ones who do proper freestyles such as Supernatural and Craig G.

I really like Supernatural...I dunno why though ><


there is a rapper inb Samuri Champloo made by the Cowboy Beebop creators

Fat Jun right?

[Prod]

Supernatural kicks ass, KRS-ONE is also good.

[IcareAlot]

Yeah Supernatural and KRS-One are both awesome.

Hieroglyphics
Rass
Snoop Dog
Canibus

Are others. I'm gonna go with Supernatural as well followed by KRS-ONE.

Also, do you think al MC's really come up with verses of the top of their head, or are some/most of them pre memorised (thats a word, shut up)? I'm saying, because some the lyrics are superior to the stuff they release!

[Prod]

Yeah Supernatural and KRS-One are both awesome.

Hieroglyphics
Rass
Snoop Dog
Canibus

Are others. I'm gonna go with Supernatural as well followed by KRS-ONE.

Also, do you think al MC's really come up with verses of the top of their head, or are some/most of them pre memorised (thats a word, shut up)? I'm saying, because some the lyrics are superior to the stuff they release!

Ha ha I use 'pre-memorised' too.

I'd say some do and some don't.

What I read in a rap magazine about mix-cd's:

Insert a pre written whack "freestyle" from up and coming flash in the pan rapper and then hear said freestyle appear on said wack rappers debut Def Jam album 2 months later.

I wonder who they were wrtiting about?

[sweetsakura]

KRS-One is AWESOME, I love his song "Underground". ^__^

Oooh, and that "New York" song is good by Fat Joe, Ja Rule, and Jadakiss. ^__^

[Tetsu.]

KRS-One is AWESOME, I love his song "Underground". ^__^

Oooh, and that "New York" song is good by Fat Joe, Ja Rule, and Jadakiss. ^__^

that songs owns Gwen. oh and just a random track I'm currently listening: like toy Soldiers was awsome :wink:

[Prod]

^

Tis a good song.

Okay how about a new topic?

With the recent rise of certain rap artists, diss tracks have become VERY popular. What is your favourite diss track/punchline and why?

[Cide]

Not to get off subject, but my dream last night was weird.

I was hanging out with Killarmy and some other assorted members of Wutang, and we were shooting the sh*t, and I asked them to sign my fanbook, and they all were getting really stylish, and using all my colored markers.

ODB went the craziest though, he signed his name as 'SAINT JACKSON' and colored it in all crazy, with mulitcolored dots and rainbows and transparent cubes and happy clouds.

So I said goodbye to all my newfound friends, and walked around this giant super-mall with an unmarked box and a big stuffed teddy bear.

Then my family was in a snake pit and I had to dive in and rescue them.

I think this all means i have a crush on Dom Pachino.

[Tetsu.]

crazy dream there Cide :P But yeah ODB was known as the wild one on wu-tang-clan.

anyway back in topic.
Great song track diss was Hail mary/Ja-rule diss 2003 Featuring Eminem and busta Rhymes. What really pissed me off was that they used tupacs beats for it. <_<

[Prod]

Ha ha ha you always make me laugh Cide good look with that Dom Pachino crush son keep ya head up.

Nice choice Tetsu.

Mine:

+ The ***** In Yoo - Common
+ F**k Compton - Tim Dog
+ Jay-Z - The Takeover
+ Nas - Ether (My favourite)
+KRS-ONE - The Bridge Is Over

I'll post some of my fave diss lines some other time.

[Sp1k3]

I am watching the Samurai Champloo the beggining song kicks ass here it is:
Battlecry

Opening Song

produced by Nujabes
lyrics by Shing02
Printable Version

sharp like an edge of a samurai sword
the mental blade cut through flesh and bone
though my mind's at peace, the world out of order
missing the inner heat, life gets colder
oh yes, I have to find my path
no less, walk on earth, water, and fire
the elements compose a magnum opus
my modus is operandi is amalgam
steel packed tight in microchip
on my arm a sign of all-pro
the ultimate reward is honor, not awards
at odds with the times in wars with no lords

a freelancer,
a battle cry of a hawk make a dove fly and a tear dry
wonder why a lone wolf don't run with a klan
only trust your instincts and be one with the plan

some days, some nights
some live, some die
in the way of the samurai
some fight, some bleed
sun up to sun down
the sons of a battlecry

some days, some nights
some live, some die
in the way of the samurai
some fight, some bleed
sun up to sun down
the sons of a battlecry

look, just the air around him
an aura surrounding the heir apparent
he might be a peasant but shine like grand royalty
he to the people and land, loyalty
we witness above all to hear this,
sea sickness in the ocean of wickedness
set sail to the sun set no second guessing

far east style with the spirit of wild west
the "quote-unquote" code stands the test of
time for the chosen ones to find the best of
noble minds that ever graced the face of
a hemisphere with no fear, fly over

the blue yonder where
the sky meets the sea
and eye meets no eye
and boy meets world
and became a man to serve the world
to save the day, the night, and the girl too

[chorus repeat]
Jin is on my sig.

[Tetsu.]

to tell you the truth Kamina Ayato. I think IMHO the lyrics are cheesy as hell.
Don't get me wrong the song is ok. I just think the lyrics should of been more better.

[Cide]

Hey comrades, I made a Stoupe thread. I want some attention and pampering.

[Sp1k3]

to tell you the truth Kamina Ayato. I think IMHO the lyrics are cheesy as hell.
Don't get me wrong the song is ok. I just think the lyrics should of been more better.

i know the song was okay but it is good for the show.

[Prod]

Shazam...

+ After bad LP reviews, Big Noyd hopes to settle with his third album ON The Grind out this month, featuring Havoc and Alchemist.

+ Afroman (remember him?) has gained a cease-and-desist order against someone called Dol Re alleging he's been impersonating him.

+After a well publicised emotional exit from Def Jam in 2002, Foxy Brown is back with the label to release her forthcoming Black Roses LP. (Oh no...)

+A new hip-hop production DVD magazine entitled 'Hot Trax' features numerous producers in the studio including Charlemange and Midi Mafia.

+ Look out for upcoming X-ecutioners mix CD Xpansion the crews first offering since its new line-up after Rod Swift departed.

+ Beanie Sigel's much anticipated return 'The B.Coming' surfaces this month with Just Blaze, RZA, Redman, Peedi Crack and No ID.

+ Jadakiss had responded the 50 Cent's diss track 'Piggyback'.

[Sp1k3]

Shazam...

+ After bad LP reviews, Big Noyd hopes to settle with his third album ON The Grind out this month, featuring Havoc and Alchemist.

+ Afroman (remember him?) has gained a cease-and-desist order against someone called Dol Re alleging he's been impersonating him.

+After a well publicised emotional exit from Def Jam in 2002, Foxy Brown is back with the label to release her forthcoming Black Roses LP. (Oh no...)

+A new hip-hop production DVD magazine entitled 'Hot Trax' features numerous producers in the studio including Charlemange and Midi Mafia.

+ Look out for upcoming X-ecutioners mix CD Xpansion the crews first offering since its new line-up after Rod Swift departed.

+ Beanie Sigel's much anticipated return 'The B.Coming' surfaces this month with Just Blaze, RZA, Redman, Peedi Crack and No ID.

+ Jadakiss had responded the 50 Cent's diss track 'Piggyback'.

Afroman, is trying to make a comeback

[Prod]

^

Is he? I heard he is off the weed now, I'm not expecting much from him though.

[Tetsu.]

+ Beanie Sigel's much anticipated return 'The B.Coming' surfaces this month with Just Blaze, RZA, Redman, Peedi Crack and No ID.

Yeah Beanie Sigel is back. Haven't herd of him much, for some time now. :?

[Cide]

PM me for a couple of free rap albums, I'm feeling generous. Canibus, The Vitruvian Man mixtape also.

God speed.

[Prod]

PM me for a couple of free rap albums, I'm feeling generous. Canibus, The Vitruvian Man mixtape also.

God speed.

Thanks for those I can't download them at home due to my crappy modem but i'll try at college.

[Bone Collecta]

PM me for a couple of free rap albums, I'm feeling generous. Canibus, The Vitruvian Man mixtape also.

God speed.
lemme get em :D