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KenMasters
12-08-2005, 12:41 PM
I personally like Regular reggae! I hate reggaeton because they all sound the same besides Sean Paul will kill Daddy Yankee anyday! But I'm not here to hate, just to see waht you like! No flaming people!

R. Dagger
12-09-2005, 01:46 AM
Reggaeton is a musical disgrace. It all sounds the same and it's all about the same damn thing.

I have no idea why it has reggae in the title when it has no reggae elements in it. I mean, I can't hear any reggae influence in it.

Give me reggae anyday. And if you think Sean Paul is reggae, you need to get out more.

Johnny Couth.
12-09-2005, 02:57 AM
I've never heard any Reggaetron. Sean Paul isn't reggae.

Demon Feather
12-09-2005, 04:00 AM
Sean Paul is Dancehall not Reggae Bob Marley and Gregory Isaacs is Reggae, Reageton all sounds the same to me

Mrs Crybaby
12-09-2005, 04:02 AM
I don't like nither but I'll rather listen to Reggaeton

KenMasters
12-09-2005, 09:19 AM
Sean Paul is the new generation of reggae!

R. Dagger
12-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Sean Paul is the new generation of reggae!
Umm... no.

KenMasters
12-09-2005, 12:26 PM
Then Gee Whiz what is he???

R. Dagger
12-09-2005, 12:45 PM
If you read about five posts up, you'll see this:

Sean Paul is Dancehall not Reggae

Johnny Couth.
12-09-2005, 10:23 PM
Sean Paul is the new generation of reggae!

Sean Paul is to Reggae as Avril Lavigne is to Punk. That question will probably come up on the SATs.

Tetsu.
12-10-2005, 04:10 AM
Sean Paul to me is pop dance type music.
I prefer Regae over regeturn since..regeturn sounds the same and thier voices dont even fit the beat.

there were some regaturn artist with good songs. (I forgot his name) called '5 de setiembre(i know i spelled it wrong.) was a nice track and never mention dancin with hoes etc. Regeturn will be only good for dancin and thats it.

Power Metal Reserection
12-10-2005, 08:05 AM
Sean Paul is the new generation of reggae!

Sean Paul is to Reggae as Avril Lavigne is to Punk. That question will probably come up on the SATs.They don't have analogys on the sat anymore though. Or have i been studying for the wrong test?? :?

KenMasters
12-10-2005, 11:06 AM
I don't know waht you all are talking about, but every single reggaeton song sounds exactly the same! No difference!

Power Metal Reserection
12-10-2005, 02:32 PM
I don't know waht you all are talking about, but every single reggaeton song sounds exactly the same! No difference!everyone is saying sean paul is not reaggeay and agreeing with you that all reaggaeton all sounds the same.

KenMasters
12-10-2005, 08:14 PM
I'm really not into! I think it is so...blah!

Demon Feather
12-16-2005, 06:52 AM
let me clear this up for KenMasters, Sean Paul is Dancehall his music is more up beat, Reggae is more slow, to see the difference listen to "we be burnin" by Sean Paul, then listen to "Night Nurse" by Gregory Isaacs, if you're smart you'll hear the huge difference

KenMasters
12-16-2005, 08:13 AM
let me clear this up for KenMasters, Sean Paul is Dancehall his music is more up beat, Reggae is more slow, to see the difference listen to "we be burnin" by Sean Paul, then listen to "Night Nurse" by Gregory Isaacs, if you're smart you'll hear the huge difference

But it has a reggae groove in it! People do all the reggae dances to his songs!

Sp1k3
12-16-2005, 08:57 AM
If you want some good reggae from this time period, listen to Matisyhu. A jewish reggae, he has some good beats and some sick lyrics. I truly thought he sucked, but than I bought his album and I love him.

Demon Feather
12-17-2005, 05:01 AM
If you want some good reggae from this time period, listen to Matisyhu. A jewish reggae, he has some good beats and some sick lyrics. I truly thought he sucked, but than I bought his album and I love him.

JEWISH 8O are you joking?, please tell me yout joking.

Tetsu.
12-17-2005, 07:12 AM
let me clear this up for KenMasters, Sean Paul is Dancehall his music is more up beat, Reggae is more slow, to see the difference listen to "we be burnin" by Sean Paul, then listen to "Night Nurse" by Gregory Isaacs, if you're smart you'll hear the huge difference

But it has a reggae groove in it! People do all the reggae dances to his songs!

Sean Paul havin an accent dosent make it 'reggae groove'.
Though some of his beats are similar to reggae so yea.


meh

KenMasters
12-17-2005, 01:14 PM
It's not his accent! It's just the music and yes it does fall in the reggae category! I just bought his new cd from the "reggae" section in best buy!

Sp1k3
12-18-2005, 04:25 AM
If you want some good reggae from this time period, listen to Matisyhu. A jewish reggae, he has some good beats and some sick lyrics. I truly thought he sucked, but than I bought his album and I love him.

JEWISH 8O are you joking?, please tell me yout joking.

Yes, he is Jewish. Trust me, he is really good and derserves a lot of respect.

R. Dagger
12-18-2005, 04:37 AM
It's not his accent! It's just the music and yes it does fall in the reggae category! I just bought his new cd from the "reggae" section in best buy!
Umm... wow. Just wow. Just because Best Buy has his crap filed under reggae doesn't mean it's reggae.

Half-Breed77
12-18-2005, 04:40 AM
i think Reggaeton is named as such because of the two-beat feel. Much like Reggae. They are totally different, but the feel is the same to some extent.

KenMasters
12-18-2005, 08:24 AM
He is in the reggae section of every record store that I go to!

R. Dagger
12-18-2005, 12:37 PM
He is in the reggae section of every record store that I go to!
Then every record store you go to doesn't know it's genres. And obviously you don't either.

They had the Damned filed under rock instead of punk at Rhino Records, but they're clearly a punk band and I know that. I wouldn't be like 'ZoMg! The Damned are rock cause this record store tells me they are?!11'

KenMasters
12-19-2005, 12:00 AM
Well Rock and Punk can fall in the same category!

R. Dagger
12-19-2005, 02:36 AM
Well Rock and Punk can fall in the same category!
No, they can't.

KenMasters
12-19-2005, 12:57 PM
What in the ...>>>>> :roll:

R. Dagger
12-19-2005, 01:15 PM
Alright then, explain to me how rock and punk can fall in the same category.

KenMasters
12-20-2005, 08:12 AM
Are u familiar with the term "Punk Rock??"
Just like R&B and Hip Hop can fall in the same category so can punk and rock! The are just different forms of the category!

R. Dagger
12-20-2005, 01:53 PM
Are u familiar with the term "Punk Rock??"
Do you know who you're talking to?


Just like R&B and Hip Hop can fall in the same category so can punk and rock! The are just different forms of the category!
That's where you're wrong. R&B and Hip Hop are two very different sounding genres, usually with different lyrical content. You can seriously tell me that an R&B artist... let's say Smokey Robinson and a hip hop artist... let's say MF Doom can fall in the same category?

Same goes for Punk and Rock That's like saying Zeppelin and Black Flag fall into the same category.

Johnny Couth.
12-21-2005, 03:46 AM
Record stores put Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional under the Punk/Ska section, they suck.

KenMasters
12-21-2005, 10:04 AM
Are u familiar with the term "Punk Rock??"
Do you know who you're talking to?


Just like R&B and Hip Hop can fall in the same category so can punk and rock! The are just different forms of the category!
That's where you're wrong. R&B and Hip Hop are two very different sounding genres, usually with different lyrical content. You can seriously tell me that an R&B artist... let's say Smokey Robinson and a hip hop artist... let's say MF Doom can fall in the same category?

Same goes for Punk and Rock That's like saying Zeppelin and Black Flag fall into the same category.

Smokey Robinson is "Classic R&B" Aaliyah is considered hip hop and R&B because of her music and her voice! If you watch MTV'S "Direct Effect" which is a hip hop show or listen to Hot 97 a hip hop station they have both! I said they Can fall into teh same category!

R. Dagger
12-21-2005, 01:13 PM
Are u familiar with the term "Punk Rock??"
Do you know who you're talking to?


Just like R&B and Hip Hop can fall in the same category so can punk and rock! The are just different forms of the category!
That's where you're wrong. R&B and Hip Hop are two very different sounding genres, usually with different lyrical content. You can seriously tell me that an R&B artist... let's say Smokey Robinson and a hip hop artist... let's say MF Doom can fall in the same category?

Same goes for Punk and Rock That's like saying Zeppelin and Black Flag fall into the same category.

Smokey Robinson is "Classic R&B" Aaliyah is considered hip hop and R&B because of her music and her voice! If you watch MTV'S "Direct Effect" which is a hip hop show or listen to Hot 97 a hip hop station they have both! I said they Can fall into teh same category!
Whoa, whoa whoa. This is where this discussion ends. First off, there is no genre called 'Hip Hop and R&B'. That's just some bullshit made by the likes of MTV and BET. The only reason shows and radio stations like that play both is because both are considered urban. Aaliyah (R.I.P.) may have had hip hop influences, but that doesn't mean she can fall in the hip hop category, since the music she made was R&B.

I don't watch MTV or listen to the radio, but I can see now why you think they can fall into the same category... since MTV has **** like 'Best New Hip Hop/Soul/R&B/Rock/BlahBlahBlah' award things going on. Gah, I hate that ****. It's like 'No, it's just Hip Hop... not all of that'.

Ha, that reminds me of Against Me!... ZoMg! A Folk/Indie/Punk band!... No, just punk... just punk.

KenMasters
12-21-2005, 07:39 PM
Okay I'm done with you because obviosly you are stuck in the 80's or sumfin! Back on topic, Yeh Reggae!

R. Dagger
12-22-2005, 02:35 AM
Okay I'm done with you because obviosly you are stuck in the 80's or sumfin! Back on topic, Yeh Reggae!
Haha, you're done with me cause you know I'm right. Stuck in the 80's? I don't know where you got that assumption from. I just know way more about music than you possibly ever will and I don't fall into all these 'new' genres that MTV sh*ts out to todays youth. 'Rock/Soul/Indie/Folk/R&B/Punk group' whatever :roll:

And yes, REAL reggae is great.

KenMasters
12-22-2005, 09:16 AM
Yehhh your right! :roll: I can't believe the ignorance!

R. Dagger
12-22-2005, 12:36 PM
Yehhh your right! :roll: I can't believe the ignorance!
I'm not ignorant. I think you were looking for the word arrogant. I just know A LOT about music. I know you don't know much about genres and the differences (thinking Sean Paul is reggae and all) but that's okay. Everyone has to start somewhere. I did. I'm not trying to sound like a dick or anything.

Anyway, it was fun having this discussion with you.

KenMasters
12-22-2005, 08:07 PM
No I think I found the correct word to describe you!

Prod
12-24-2005, 04:45 AM
What the deuce?

First off, I'm sure Sean Paul falls under the Dancehall genre. Oh and Reggae for the win.

Hip Hop and RnB can fall into the same category? Compare Eazy-E to Keith Sweat and then come back.

Tetsu.
12-24-2005, 04:50 AM
KenMaster= JEM? O_o

hmm,I cant see how rap and R&B fall in the same category. Since most hip hop artist dont do vocals(sing) while R&B does.

Prodigy: what a great example of usin Eazy-E and keith Sweat. XDDDDD

R. Dagger
12-24-2005, 06:23 AM
Thank God. Other people who understand.

KenMasters
12-24-2005, 06:09 PM
Oh boy oh boy!
These days they do fall under the same category!
Ashanti, Ciara, and Chris Brown and also Usher are considered Hip Hop!
Keith Sweat. sure he is not a hip hop r&b artist but there are some! But Hip Hop and R&B are related! Rap is not necessarily Hip Hop! Punk and Rock are also like cousins because there is a similarity in the music, it may not be exactly the same but there is definetly a connection! Mary J Blige's "Real Love" is a hip hop song! Why do you think when R&B artists and Hip Hop artist colloborate a majority of the time they fit well together? Because there is a relation! Now if Richie Dagger knew music as well as he thought he did he would know that! The difference between each of the categories is not that easy to see!

R. Dagger
12-25-2005, 01:10 AM
I'm not denying there's a connection between hip hop and r&b, or punk and rock. There is. Of course there is. But just because there's a connection between them, doesn't mean they fall in the same category. Since each genre has their own sound, their own feel.

Genres can intertwine. That they can. But because two artist from different genres intertwine to make a song, you can't say that both artists fall under their and the collaborators genre or that they made a brand new genre by mixing theirs together. That's like saying hip hop and rock can fall in the same genre because Run DMC and Aerosmith made 'Walk This Way.' It's a great song. Hip Hop and Rock and two very different genres but they fit together in that song. And I'm sure there's other songs that fit those two genres well. But someone isn't going to make a genre called 'Hip Hop and Rock' because of it. It's just not going to happen.

Obviously there's a connection with punk and rock. Never did I say there wasn't. Punk was made from rock, and yes, there is a similarity. That similarity is there, but punk is way different than rock, which is why it has it's own category and rock has it's own as well. Same with Hip hop and R&B. There's a similarity, but each of those genres has big differences. Hence they have their own category and cannot fit in the same category.

You can't tell me that Mos Def and Ashanti fall in the same category. They don't. There's not way they do.

Example for punk and rock: Saying The Misfits and U2 fall in the same category.

And this... this is probably the best example: Rockabilly and Psychobilly. Psychobilly is Rockabilly's love child (that means that Psychobilly evolved from Rockabilly). Now, Psychobilly may have came from Rockabilly... but in no way can you say they can fall in the same category. Psychobilly and Rockabilly do have similarities, they have much more differences. I know Prodigy has heard psychobilly... I think you've heard The Hellbillys, right?... But if you've heard Rockabilly (like The Stray Cats, Elvis Presley's early recordings, Johnny Cash's early recordings) you'll agree that they are WAY different.

Johnny Couth.
12-25-2005, 12:36 PM
It's easy for alot of people to assume that Sean Paul is reggae because of his accent. Next time listen to one of his songs and think to yourself, "If someone with a British accent was singing this song, would I think it was reggae?"

I actually had this same Sean Paul conversation with my brother. We were listening to this one song off his lap top, I forget the name but one of the lines is: "Some got gold, and oil, and diamonds, all we got is Mary Jane." He made some comment about Sean Paul being Reggae. I responded, "I wouldn't consider Sean Paul reggae." My brother said, "He was making reggae music in Jamaica, he's as reggae as it gets." I said, "He was making music in Jamaica, but not Regga, your country doesn't determine your genre."

No keep in mind, my brother knows reggae. My brother and I often take long care rides just blasting true reggae/early ska and singing along, but he considered Sean Paul to be reggae. Should you consider Sean Paul new reggae, reggae meats synthesizer? No, absolutely not. His accent doesn't make him a reggae artist.

KenMasters
12-25-2005, 01:45 PM
I'm not saying that because of his accent, I'm saying that because of the music and everything else! Gee Whiz! I don't care what u all say!

Johnny Couth.
12-25-2005, 07:30 PM
The music isn't Reggae, have you heard a reggae song before?

KenMasters
12-25-2005, 11:25 PM
Of course I've listened to reggae! My compy is full of it! Gee Whiz I just don't understand you guys so I'm going to avoid arguing with you all and get back on topic because u all belong in the Psych Ward ASAP! I want to know why people make such a big deal over daddy yankee! I hate him sooooo much and every last one of his songs sounds the same! It sounds like a bunch of nothing!

Tetsu.
12-26-2005, 02:53 AM
Of course I've listened to reggae! My compy is full of it! Gee Whiz I just don't understand you guys so I'm going to avoid arguing with you all and get back on topic because u all belong in the Psych Ward ASAP! I want to know why people make such a big deal over daddy yankee! I hate him sooooo much and every last one of his songs sounds the same! It sounds like a bunch of nothing!

We never made a big deal on daddy Yankee O_o.
you say we need to be in the psych ward, but how your post sounds..
you sound more crazy then all of us combine. ;p

oh well, to each his own.reggae>regaturn

KenMasters
12-26-2005, 10:14 AM
I'm not talking aboot u guys making a big deal, just other people!
And I'm not crazy, I'm just a b*tch who luvs to bug the crap outta people!
Reggae 4eva!

Johnny Couth.
12-26-2005, 11:41 AM
I don't know anything about a Daddy ****ing Yankee.